1 00:00:06,230 --> 00:00:03,710 uh we have been working on a case it is 2 00:00:08,390 --> 00:00:06,240 two years so two years ago this thing 3 00:00:10,790 --> 00:00:08,400 happened and nothing has come out 4 00:00:14,390 --> 00:00:10,800 there's been no media coverage in the 5 00:00:17,510 --> 00:00:14,400 two years since so I got a tip uh from 6 00:00:20,150 --> 00:00:17,520 two bases at the time but the tip was 7 00:00:21,950 --> 00:00:20,160 basically like something happened and 8 00:00:23,990 --> 00:00:21,960 you should look into it click and I'm 9 00:00:26,630 --> 00:00:24,000 like oh no like but it was you know from 10 00:00:28,490 --> 00:00:26,640 a high up let's show the first video and 11 00:00:33,470 --> 00:00:28,500 let's talk it through so people cannot 12 00:00:38,990 --> 00:00:36,229 Secrets cover-ups and strange phenomena 13 00:00:42,049 --> 00:00:39,000 UFOs and ideas that challenge reality 14 00:00:43,670 --> 00:00:42,059 itself all these Mysteries all this time 15 00:00:46,190 --> 00:00:43,680 are we ever going to get to the bottom 16 00:00:48,770 --> 00:00:46,200 of these my name is George Knapp I dig 17 00:00:51,049 --> 00:00:48,780 into news stories that others can't or 18 00:00:52,729 --> 00:00:51,059 won't I'm Jeremy Corbell and for some 19 00:00:54,709 --> 00:00:52,739 reason people tell me things they 20 00:00:59,510 --> 00:00:54,719 probably shouldn't 21 00:01:03,110 --> 00:01:00,709 foreign 22 00:01:04,609 --> 00:01:03,120 this is weaponize welcome back everyone 23 00:01:05,870 --> 00:01:04,619 hey Jeremy how's it going what's up 24 00:01:08,390 --> 00:01:05,880 George good to see you again on 25 00:01:10,250 --> 00:01:08,400 weaponize hey we're in episode 18. we're 26 00:01:12,469 --> 00:01:10,260 having a great time we get a lot of 27 00:01:14,690 --> 00:01:12,479 feedback from our listeners and those 28 00:01:16,370 --> 00:01:14,700 who watch on YouTube and it's been fun I 29 00:01:17,810 --> 00:01:16,380 mean it's very supportive the weaponized 30 00:01:19,850 --> 00:01:17,820 audience out there they like what we're 31 00:01:21,950 --> 00:01:19,860 doing most of them 32 00:01:23,929 --> 00:01:21,960 um periodically we like to give them a 33 00:01:26,570 --> 00:01:23,939 little reminder of what the program is 34 00:01:28,609 --> 00:01:26,580 supposed to be at the start I obviously 35 00:01:30,230 --> 00:01:28,619 we've admitted our interest is in UFOs 36 00:01:33,890 --> 00:01:30,240 UAP is whatever you want to call them 37 00:01:35,149 --> 00:01:33,900 and it is a UFO UAP Centric program but 38 00:01:36,649 --> 00:01:35,159 we have other interests there are other 39 00:01:38,749 --> 00:01:36,659 things going on in the world than we've 40 00:01:41,569 --> 00:01:38,759 said from the beginning we kind of like 41 00:01:44,990 --> 00:01:41,579 to explore other ideas you know creative 42 00:01:47,090 --> 00:01:45,000 people filmmakers artists musicians uh 43 00:01:49,370 --> 00:01:47,100 folks like that interesting people with 44 00:01:51,530 --> 00:01:49,380 interesting lives and sometimes it 45 00:01:54,590 --> 00:01:51,540 intersects with UFOs but not everything 46 00:01:56,870 --> 00:01:54,600 is about UFOs right well first of all 47 00:01:59,870 --> 00:01:56,880 you have other interests than UFOs yeah 48 00:02:02,569 --> 00:01:59,880 I do you know okay that's good books I 49 00:02:06,170 --> 00:02:02,579 watch movies you don't say yeah okay 50 00:02:07,850 --> 00:02:06,180 yeah so that that is true however this 51 00:02:10,249 --> 00:02:07,860 episode's about UFO this one is about 52 00:02:11,570 --> 00:02:10,259 this one's about UFOs make everybody 53 00:02:13,369 --> 00:02:11,580 happy 54 00:02:16,430 --> 00:02:13,379 um yeah it's gonna be a good episode but 55 00:02:17,869 --> 00:02:16,440 before we talk about that I want to know 56 00:02:20,449 --> 00:02:17,879 I just want to catch up with you we 57 00:02:23,510 --> 00:02:20,459 haven't hung out in a little bit uh you 58 00:02:25,309 --> 00:02:23,520 have an explosion of mantises in your 59 00:02:26,630 --> 00:02:25,319 yard right yeah tell me about that I 60 00:02:29,089 --> 00:02:26,640 can't remember if I talked about it on 61 00:02:31,670 --> 00:02:29,099 this program before but uh praying 62 00:02:34,369 --> 00:02:31,680 mantises so I had an a mantis that 63 00:02:36,170 --> 00:02:34,379 showed up in my yard in Las Vegas I 64 00:02:37,850 --> 00:02:36,180 think it's eight years ago now and it 65 00:02:39,710 --> 00:02:37,860 actually was in the pool I thought it 66 00:02:41,449 --> 00:02:39,720 was a piece of wood floating in in the 67 00:02:43,850 --> 00:02:41,459 pool and I scooped it out and I realized 68 00:02:46,490 --> 00:02:43,860 oh man it's a mantis it's a dead mantis 69 00:02:48,410 --> 00:02:46,500 which I I just love those little beings 70 00:02:49,970 --> 00:02:48,420 so I put it out in the shade thinking 71 00:02:52,790 --> 00:02:49,980 well maybe it'll bounce back looked like 72 00:02:55,070 --> 00:02:52,800 it had drowned and uh I go in the house 73 00:02:57,350 --> 00:02:55,080 I come back like a half hour later that 74 00:02:59,270 --> 00:02:57,360 mantis is standing at the door at the 75 00:03:01,130 --> 00:02:59,280 door wanting to come in whoa whoa little 76 00:03:02,750 --> 00:03:01,140 guy hold on a second I pay picked them 77 00:03:05,449 --> 00:03:02,760 up and I put them in a there's a little 78 00:03:08,030 --> 00:03:05,459 flower bed in our Courtyard where we 79 00:03:10,369 --> 00:03:08,040 grow mint and other herbs and things 80 00:03:13,430 --> 00:03:10,379 like that and put them in there and it 81 00:03:16,790 --> 00:03:13,440 blossomed into a manta Sanctuary the 82 00:03:19,670 --> 00:03:16,800 following year we had 20 30 50 mantises 83 00:03:23,570 --> 00:03:19,680 in there and then it was hundreds and 84 00:03:26,270 --> 00:03:23,580 each year almost to the date on May 1st 85 00:03:27,710 --> 00:03:26,280 April 30th May 1st more mantis has come 86 00:03:29,270 --> 00:03:27,720 so I'm in the middle of manta season 87 00:03:32,030 --> 00:03:29,280 right now this week has been an 88 00:03:33,949 --> 00:03:32,040 explosion of little baby mantises and 89 00:03:35,630 --> 00:03:33,959 people wonder well what's the point well 90 00:03:37,729 --> 00:03:35,640 they're just amazing little creatures 91 00:03:40,190 --> 00:03:37,739 plus you know we've heard some stories 92 00:03:42,649 --> 00:03:40,200 from mutual friends of ours Stuart that 93 00:03:46,250 --> 00:03:42,659 says yes Stuart Davis he runs a podcast 94 00:03:48,830 --> 00:03:46,260 called uh aliens and artists or artists 95 00:03:51,350 --> 00:03:48,840 and Aliens artists and Aliens yeah and 96 00:03:53,809 --> 00:03:51,360 he had an experience on the New Year's 97 00:03:55,490 --> 00:03:53,819 Eve with an eight foot tall mantis and a 98 00:03:58,190 --> 00:03:55,500 lot of people have said they have these 99 00:04:00,170 --> 00:03:58,200 mantis alien encounters 100 00:04:01,729 --> 00:04:00,180 I don't know if they're real or not I 101 00:04:04,250 --> 00:04:01,739 don't know if they really do look like 102 00:04:06,410 --> 00:04:04,260 eight foot tall mantises but why not 103 00:04:08,149 --> 00:04:06,420 cover your bet so I'm thinking it 104 00:04:10,309 --> 00:04:08,159 doesn't hurt to be nice to these praying 105 00:04:12,410 --> 00:04:10,319 mantises just in case the alien 106 00:04:14,809 --> 00:04:12,420 overlords decide to to land one of these 107 00:04:16,610 --> 00:04:14,819 days but I I dig them anyway this is a 108 00:04:18,409 --> 00:04:16,620 really big week 109 00:04:20,150 --> 00:04:18,419 um we'll put some images up maybe of 110 00:04:23,090 --> 00:04:20,160 these mantises as they come out it's 111 00:04:25,490 --> 00:04:23,100 like they they put these little egg 112 00:04:28,129 --> 00:04:25,500 they look like condo Towers Memphis 113 00:04:30,530 --> 00:04:28,139 condo towers and then 50 100 of them 114 00:04:32,450 --> 00:04:30,540 come up out at the same time and uh 115 00:04:34,490 --> 00:04:32,460 they're amazing I mean it's I don't know 116 00:04:36,770 --> 00:04:34,500 much about it all I know is that if I 117 00:04:40,070 --> 00:04:36,780 get 50 texts from George Knapp it's 118 00:04:41,990 --> 00:04:40,080 going to be cats mantises or UFOs like 119 00:04:43,610 --> 00:04:42,000 that or air conditioning problems it's 120 00:04:46,189 --> 00:04:43,620 gonna be something like that those are 121 00:04:48,890 --> 00:04:46,199 my interests okay well it mantises uh by 122 00:04:50,390 --> 00:04:48,900 the way they're [\h__\h] brutal man I 123 00:04:52,490 --> 00:04:50,400 mean are they the ones that like mate 124 00:04:54,350 --> 00:04:52,500 and then eat their mates yeah and I 125 00:04:55,850 --> 00:04:54,360 think I think these little baby mantises 126 00:04:57,409 --> 00:04:55,860 if there's nothing else around they 127 00:04:58,610 --> 00:04:57,419 probably eat each other that's where a 128 00:05:00,290 --> 00:04:58,620 lot of them end up going I've been 129 00:05:03,409 --> 00:05:00,300 seeing all these videos online of 130 00:05:05,090 --> 00:05:03,419 mantises devouring like entire spiders 131 00:05:07,730 --> 00:05:05,100 or entire animals 132 00:05:09,590 --> 00:05:07,740 um anywhere yeah Birds yeah that that's 133 00:05:11,330 --> 00:05:09,600 that's freaky if the planet was run by 134 00:05:13,070 --> 00:05:11,340 mantises we'd be screwed man well it 135 00:05:15,950 --> 00:05:13,080 might be run by mantis as we just don't 136 00:05:17,629 --> 00:05:15,960 know uh on the UFO front yeah a lot of a 137 00:05:19,850 --> 00:05:17,639 lot of news this week a lot of things 138 00:05:21,890 --> 00:05:19,860 happen our mutual friend Dr Gary Nolan 139 00:05:24,409 --> 00:05:21,900 of Stanford University gave an interview 140 00:05:27,050 --> 00:05:24,419 he is made these kind of statements 141 00:05:30,409 --> 00:05:27,060 before but it was on a new platform and 142 00:05:32,689 --> 00:05:30,419 it gained a great exposure where he made 143 00:05:34,790 --> 00:05:32,699 definitive statements that some kind of 144 00:05:38,029 --> 00:05:34,800 alien intelligence I think he implies 145 00:05:41,390 --> 00:05:38,039 it's ET is here it's always been here 146 00:05:43,370 --> 00:05:41,400 and it is here now and um and he made 147 00:05:45,950 --> 00:05:43,380 reference to whistleblowers some events 148 00:05:47,990 --> 00:05:45,960 in Washington DC of the past week that 149 00:05:50,210 --> 00:05:48,000 some bombs were dropped you and I 150 00:05:51,890 --> 00:05:50,220 interact with whistleblowers some of the 151 00:05:54,050 --> 00:05:51,900 the biggest ones that are still to be 152 00:05:57,350 --> 00:05:54,060 made public I want to get your sense of 153 00:05:59,450 --> 00:05:57,360 what you made of Dr Nolan's remark yeah 154 00:06:02,930 --> 00:05:59,460 so first of all for people who don't 155 00:06:05,930 --> 00:06:02,940 know who Dr Gary Nolan is he's a hell of 156 00:06:08,270 --> 00:06:05,940 a guy I remember we were in uh Alabama 157 00:06:10,790 --> 00:06:08,280 and we were there for a conference you 158 00:06:12,409 --> 00:06:10,800 and me and I was pressuring him come get 159 00:06:14,390 --> 00:06:12,419 a whiskey with me come get a whiskey I 160 00:06:16,610 --> 00:06:14,400 didn't think he'd show up man he showed 161 00:06:19,430 --> 00:06:16,620 up so he's a hell of a guy but what 162 00:06:22,249 --> 00:06:19,440 people need to know about Gary is that 163 00:06:24,170 --> 00:06:22,259 he's a scientist that he has been 164 00:06:25,749 --> 00:06:24,180 interested in this topic and and Ford 165 00:06:29,029 --> 00:06:25,759 speaking about it for a long time 166 00:06:31,129 --> 00:06:29,039 additionally this is a guy that has 167 00:06:34,129 --> 00:06:31,139 clearances and contracts with our 168 00:06:37,070 --> 00:06:34,139 government and he did do in-depth 169 00:06:40,010 --> 00:06:37,080 studies on the human brain on Military 170 00:06:42,590 --> 00:06:40,020 individuals that had close proximity to 171 00:06:44,150 --> 00:06:42,600 UFOs this is under OSAP which you've 172 00:06:47,150 --> 00:06:44,160 told the world about for many years now 173 00:06:50,930 --> 00:06:47,160 but with Gary he's really had a front 174 00:06:53,090 --> 00:06:50,940 row seat to what was Secret at one time 175 00:06:55,610 --> 00:06:53,100 about what is going on with the human 176 00:06:58,430 --> 00:06:55,620 brain when people have close proximity 177 00:07:01,969 --> 00:06:58,440 encounters with UFO so when someone like 178 00:07:04,610 --> 00:07:01,979 that speaks it's not frivolously 179 00:07:06,409 --> 00:07:04,620 we know he has good sources as a 180 00:07:08,270 --> 00:07:06,419 scientist we know that he's had good 181 00:07:10,790 --> 00:07:08,280 connection to this subject so I was 182 00:07:12,950 --> 00:07:10,800 really taken aback he said this kind of 183 00:07:15,170 --> 00:07:12,960 thing before but it was like wow he 184 00:07:17,870 --> 00:07:15,180 really threw down so mad respect for 185 00:07:20,809 --> 00:07:17,880 Gary Nolan what he what I did here in 186 00:07:23,210 --> 00:07:20,819 that is that his confidence that the UFO 187 00:07:25,129 --> 00:07:23,220 reality is real that these are machines 188 00:07:27,890 --> 00:07:25,139 from somewhere else that we don't know 189 00:07:30,589 --> 00:07:27,900 who's operating them but but also about 190 00:07:34,249 --> 00:07:30,599 whistleblowers he made a statement 191 00:07:35,990 --> 00:07:34,259 if I recall that he says not not only 192 00:07:38,270 --> 00:07:36,000 are people coming forward but they've 193 00:07:41,210 --> 00:07:38,280 told locations of where this Hardware 194 00:07:43,909 --> 00:07:41,220 this alien Hardware straight up like Bob 195 00:07:47,330 --> 00:07:43,919 Lazar talk this alien Hardware where it 196 00:07:49,249 --> 00:07:47,340 is and I can confirm to you and you can 197 00:07:51,050 --> 00:07:49,259 confirm to me that this is we know this 198 00:07:53,570 --> 00:07:51,060 to be true that this has been presented 199 00:07:56,210 --> 00:07:53,580 to Dr Kirkpatrick at least presented to 200 00:07:58,969 --> 00:07:56,220 him can he follow up can he make sure 201 00:08:01,249 --> 00:07:58,979 these are valid claims I don't know I 202 00:08:03,469 --> 00:08:01,259 still am very skeptical if he can do 203 00:08:05,570 --> 00:08:03,479 that but we know that some of the 204 00:08:08,330 --> 00:08:05,580 witnesses we've spoken with that they 205 00:08:11,990 --> 00:08:08,340 have conveyed within the the classified 206 00:08:15,589 --> 00:08:12,000 setting where the freaking Hardware is 207 00:08:20,029 --> 00:08:15,599 for these this UFO Technologies and that 208 00:08:23,150 --> 00:08:20,039 was was huge he also said during or the 209 00:08:25,730 --> 00:08:23,160 little bit that I saw from that is well 210 00:08:29,150 --> 00:08:25,740 let's let's just stop there alien 211 00:08:31,249 --> 00:08:29,160 Hardware locations so the question is uh 212 00:08:33,589 --> 00:08:31,259 how much of that information has already 213 00:08:36,050 --> 00:08:33,599 been conveyed to Congress right and what 214 00:08:37,969 --> 00:08:36,060 will we they do with it expectations of 215 00:08:39,949 --> 00:08:37,979 course are are high right now people 216 00:08:42,050 --> 00:08:39,959 think this is the year you know we've 217 00:08:43,730 --> 00:08:42,060 only heard that for 50 years or so this 218 00:08:46,430 --> 00:08:43,740 is the year the disclosure it's all 219 00:08:49,070 --> 00:08:46,440 combusting out and I appreciate the 220 00:08:50,509 --> 00:08:49,080 optimism of UFO world but again and 221 00:08:52,550 --> 00:08:50,519 again it's been Lucy in the football 222 00:08:53,570 --> 00:08:52,560 just when we think things are going to 223 00:08:55,430 --> 00:08:53,580 break 224 00:08:58,850 --> 00:08:55,440 um you know it the rug gets pulled out 225 00:09:00,650 --> 00:08:58,860 the ball gets snatched away uh I think 226 00:09:03,110 --> 00:09:00,660 that there is definite progress in the 227 00:09:05,509 --> 00:09:03,120 past five years of six years now since 228 00:09:07,670 --> 00:09:05,519 the New York Times story came out a lot 229 00:09:09,769 --> 00:09:07,680 has been learned the public has learned 230 00:09:12,829 --> 00:09:09,779 a lot Congress has learned a lot but it 231 00:09:15,110 --> 00:09:12,839 doesn't necessarily mean what our public 232 00:09:17,329 --> 00:09:15,120 might have in mind for disclosure is 233 00:09:20,389 --> 00:09:17,339 imminent there are still some big big 234 00:09:22,009 --> 00:09:20,399 hurdles to be overcome let's say you 235 00:09:24,050 --> 00:09:22,019 have whistleblowers who will tell 236 00:09:26,750 --> 00:09:24,060 Congress this is the building where it 237 00:09:29,750 --> 00:09:26,760 is a Kenya do you have the authority to 238 00:09:31,970 --> 00:09:29,760 go in and get it B is it still there see 239 00:09:34,130 --> 00:09:31,980 even if it is there and you get it and 240 00:09:36,110 --> 00:09:34,140 you uh confirm that it's real the 241 00:09:37,850 --> 00:09:36,120 testimony is real what do you do with it 242 00:09:40,009 --> 00:09:37,860 does that mean you can release that info 243 00:09:42,530 --> 00:09:40,019 maybe not because a national security 244 00:09:44,630 --> 00:09:42,540 considerations and even if you can do 245 00:09:46,670 --> 00:09:44,640 that does it move the needle and I don't 246 00:09:50,570 --> 00:09:46,680 know the answer to any of that yeah 247 00:09:52,550 --> 00:09:50,580 neither do I I I I've been staying away 248 00:09:54,470 --> 00:09:52,560 from the the Twitter Wars and that kind 249 00:09:57,829 --> 00:09:54,480 of thing but we we have some friends so 250 00:10:01,730 --> 00:09:57,839 Danny Silva texted us the other day on 251 00:10:03,829 --> 00:10:01,740 this thread with Joe murga and also I 252 00:10:05,990 --> 00:10:03,839 like to call them UFO Jesus but our 253 00:10:07,670 --> 00:10:06,000 friend Ryan and Danny said you know why 254 00:10:08,930 --> 00:10:07,680 aren't you guys what do you get you guys 255 00:10:11,509 --> 00:10:08,940 are the only ones not saying there's 256 00:10:13,610 --> 00:10:11,519 some big UFO bomb about to drop and I 257 00:10:15,290 --> 00:10:13,620 was kind of like what UFO bomb I I don't 258 00:10:16,730 --> 00:10:15,300 know what's what's gonna happen I don't 259 00:10:18,230 --> 00:10:16,740 have a crystal ball but I guess a lot of 260 00:10:20,570 --> 00:10:18,240 people I've been coming forward and 261 00:10:22,610 --> 00:10:20,580 saying UFO disclosure it's imminent it's 262 00:10:24,889 --> 00:10:22,620 going to happen in the next year man I 263 00:10:26,509 --> 00:10:24,899 never make those predictions just even 264 00:10:28,550 --> 00:10:26,519 trying to deal with hearings right now 265 00:10:31,070 --> 00:10:28,560 trying to get the right Witnesses you 266 00:10:33,410 --> 00:10:31,080 know to be there it can be so 267 00:10:36,230 --> 00:10:33,420 politicized that you know things slow 268 00:10:38,150 --> 00:10:36,240 down so to answer Danny publicly on a 269 00:10:40,310 --> 00:10:38,160 taxi sentence I don't know man I don't 270 00:10:42,829 --> 00:10:40,320 know there's some big disclosure event 271 00:10:44,810 --> 00:10:42,839 about to happen in fact I I err on the 272 00:10:46,670 --> 00:10:44,820 side of caution like you I have no 273 00:10:48,829 --> 00:10:46,680 direct personal knowledge that there's 274 00:10:50,210 --> 00:10:48,839 going to be some bombshell coming out 275 00:10:52,610 --> 00:10:50,220 from our government about this I mean 276 00:10:55,190 --> 00:10:52,620 somebody else out there their idea about 277 00:10:56,990 --> 00:10:55,200 what disclosure will be might be very 278 00:10:58,850 --> 00:10:57,000 different from what government officials 279 00:11:01,850 --> 00:10:58,860 military officials members of Congress 280 00:11:04,009 --> 00:11:01,860 might consider to be disclosure if they 281 00:11:06,170 --> 00:11:04,019 would go as far as saying there is an 282 00:11:08,509 --> 00:11:06,180 alien presence a non-human presence 283 00:11:10,190 --> 00:11:08,519 these are machines flying around that 284 00:11:12,590 --> 00:11:10,200 are not built by humans that would be 285 00:11:14,630 --> 00:11:12,600 huge I'll believe it when I see it I 286 00:11:16,790 --> 00:11:14,640 mean that is that would represent a 287 00:11:18,710 --> 00:11:16,800 profound change and a profound state 288 00:11:20,930 --> 00:11:18,720 treatment with far-reaching 289 00:11:23,389 --> 00:11:20,940 ramifications from our government if it 290 00:11:26,090 --> 00:11:23,399 was ever made but man we we already are 291 00:11:28,490 --> 00:11:26,100 at a point though where congress senate 292 00:11:30,050 --> 00:11:28,500 everybody's excited to protect 293 00:11:32,509 --> 00:11:30,060 whistleblowers to get this information 294 00:11:34,790 --> 00:11:32,519 for so at least there's the intent right 295 00:11:36,829 --> 00:11:34,800 now and that has been a big change is 296 00:11:38,810 --> 00:11:36,839 that this forward-facing questioning 297 00:11:41,630 --> 00:11:38,820 people are talking about having like a 298 00:11:44,030 --> 00:11:41,640 church style committee uh to really get 299 00:11:46,430 --> 00:11:44,040 into you know where the hardware is 300 00:11:49,310 --> 00:11:46,440 being held or the bodies right I think 301 00:11:52,009 --> 00:11:49,320 that is like huge progress that we are 302 00:11:55,310 --> 00:11:52,019 at this point now can arrow move the 303 00:11:57,110 --> 00:11:55,320 ball along I don't know but I I do feel 304 00:11:59,090 --> 00:11:57,120 optimistic still George I feel 305 00:12:01,190 --> 00:11:59,100 optimistic that we are in a different 306 00:12:03,290 --> 00:12:01,200 world now where this stuff is being 307 00:12:05,870 --> 00:12:03,300 talked about well I'm optimistic that 308 00:12:08,750 --> 00:12:05,880 progress has been made and progress will 309 00:12:11,269 --> 00:12:08,760 be made but to get to the point of where 310 00:12:13,069 --> 00:12:11,279 somebody might call a disclosure I am I 311 00:12:16,250 --> 00:12:13,079 am not optimistic about that there are 312 00:12:18,470 --> 00:12:16,260 so many built-in hindrances to that the 313 00:12:20,990 --> 00:12:18,480 national secure 30 apparatus the 314 00:12:23,509 --> 00:12:21,000 National Security considerations are 315 00:12:25,130 --> 00:12:23,519 part and parcel of this technology if it 316 00:12:27,710 --> 00:12:25,140 is from somewhere else and it is 317 00:12:29,690 --> 00:12:27,720 Advanced and it has incredible military 318 00:12:31,730 --> 00:12:29,700 capacities then there are going to be 319 00:12:34,190 --> 00:12:31,740 limitations on what can be said publicly 320 00:12:36,710 --> 00:12:34,200 there's just don't get around it it will 321 00:12:38,990 --> 00:12:36,720 agreed so but we have people that have 322 00:12:41,030 --> 00:12:39,000 been Champions so when we see these 323 00:12:42,829 --> 00:12:41,040 public hearings there have been some 324 00:12:45,650 --> 00:12:42,839 people that have you know stood out like 325 00:12:47,210 --> 00:12:45,660 representative Gallagher he asked some 326 00:12:49,670 --> 00:12:47,220 incredible questions that that open 327 00:12:51,110 --> 00:12:49,680 hearing the previous one so two hearings 328 00:12:52,970 --> 00:12:51,120 ago the fact we're even having hearings 329 00:12:54,350 --> 00:12:52,980 is cool but we've also had conversations 330 00:12:55,490 --> 00:12:54,360 with people let's give some props to 331 00:12:56,750 --> 00:12:55,500 some people who've been fighting a 332 00:12:59,389 --> 00:12:56,760 little bit Tim 333 00:13:02,569 --> 00:12:59,399 Tim Burchette yeah yeah uh Congressman 334 00:13:04,310 --> 00:13:02,579 Burchette has um really stepped up and 335 00:13:05,750 --> 00:13:04,320 said you know we we want to get this 336 00:13:07,370 --> 00:13:05,760 information out we want to make sure 337 00:13:09,889 --> 00:13:07,380 what's going on we've had personal 338 00:13:12,470 --> 00:13:09,899 Communications that two weeks ago we 339 00:13:13,970 --> 00:13:12,480 walked out of this room outside on the 340 00:13:16,370 --> 00:13:13,980 curb and had a conversation with him 341 00:13:18,410 --> 00:13:16,380 he's in it for the long haul this is not 342 00:13:20,389 --> 00:13:18,420 just a fad for him he told us that he's 343 00:13:23,690 --> 00:13:20,399 been following this like since the Art 344 00:13:25,850 --> 00:13:23,700 Bell days on Coast to Coast AM and is 345 00:13:27,650 --> 00:13:25,860 deeply committed to getting to the 346 00:13:29,750 --> 00:13:27,660 bottom of it I mean he's a flamethrower 347 00:13:31,670 --> 00:13:29,760 that guy that guy does not pull punches 348 00:13:33,769 --> 00:13:31,680 but his interest is deep I mean his 349 00:13:36,170 --> 00:13:33,779 knowledge of the topic is deep yeah I 350 00:13:39,350 --> 00:13:36,180 don't know a lot about politics but what 351 00:13:41,810 --> 00:13:39,360 I do see is that across the board on 352 00:13:45,050 --> 00:13:41,820 both sides of the aisle that people are 353 00:13:48,290 --> 00:13:45,060 at this point getting more informed and 354 00:13:50,030 --> 00:13:48,300 eager to get Witnesses right there in 355 00:13:52,550 --> 00:13:50,040 open Congressional hearing so all I'm 356 00:13:54,769 --> 00:13:52,560 gonna say about that is that I have high 357 00:13:56,389 --> 00:13:54,779 confidence that we are getting to a 358 00:13:58,850 --> 00:13:56,399 point where the public is going to see 359 00:14:01,190 --> 00:13:58,860 that and as a part of the public I'm 360 00:14:02,930 --> 00:14:01,200 really excited about that yeah I I there 361 00:14:04,670 --> 00:14:02,940 are whistleblowers we know some of them 362 00:14:06,829 --> 00:14:04,680 we know some of them and what they've 363 00:14:08,210 --> 00:14:06,839 told Congress and what they've told 364 00:14:10,850 --> 00:14:08,220 Arrow 365 00:14:13,910 --> 00:14:10,860 um they've talked about Legacy programs 366 00:14:16,430 --> 00:14:13,920 where things might be how many witnesses 367 00:14:18,889 --> 00:14:16,440 who've had hands-on experience that have 368 00:14:20,750 --> 00:14:18,899 touched the craft worked with the meta 369 00:14:22,550 --> 00:14:20,760 materials how many of those folks have 370 00:14:24,530 --> 00:14:22,560 already spoken to Congress I don't know 371 00:14:26,690 --> 00:14:24,540 the answer to that yeah that that's the 372 00:14:29,629 --> 00:14:26,700 real question right is is if you get 373 00:14:31,370 --> 00:14:29,639 people who had Direct contact with this 374 00:14:33,710 --> 00:14:31,380 technology like whether or not people 375 00:14:36,350 --> 00:14:33,720 believe Bob Lazar that's that's his 376 00:14:39,350 --> 00:14:36,360 claim that's what he's his account so 377 00:14:41,750 --> 00:14:39,360 the question is how many people have had 378 00:14:44,389 --> 00:14:41,760 enough access to really bring that 379 00:14:47,269 --> 00:14:44,399 forward in those settings and put people 380 00:14:49,430 --> 00:14:47,279 on task to be able to go figure out you 381 00:14:51,170 --> 00:14:49,440 know is this true and where is it we 382 00:14:53,150 --> 00:14:51,180 know it is true it's just a matter of 383 00:14:55,069 --> 00:14:53,160 where is it and and how much power do 384 00:14:57,769 --> 00:14:55,079 they have to investigate it like I'd 385 00:14:59,329 --> 00:14:57,779 like to believe that Dr Kirkpatrick of 386 00:15:01,730 --> 00:14:59,339 Arrow is going to be able to make 387 00:15:04,370 --> 00:15:01,740 progress my suspicion and what we have 388 00:15:06,530 --> 00:15:04,380 been told is that maybe he's he's uh 389 00:15:08,629 --> 00:15:06,540 he's about fed up with the process that 390 00:15:10,550 --> 00:15:08,639 he might not be around beyond the first 391 00:15:11,930 --> 00:15:10,560 of the year then he might move on that 392 00:15:14,389 --> 00:15:11,940 he's frustrated by some of the 393 00:15:16,310 --> 00:15:14,399 limitations put on him by other folks 394 00:15:17,870 --> 00:15:16,320 within the Department of Defense I'd 395 00:15:19,970 --> 00:15:17,880 like to root for him I'm wishing him 396 00:15:21,710 --> 00:15:19,980 well but I'm not sure how much progress 397 00:15:23,870 --> 00:15:21,720 he might be able to make obviously 398 00:15:26,030 --> 00:15:23,880 there's a lot of information that is in 399 00:15:29,389 --> 00:15:26,040 the pipeline that gets stopped before it 400 00:15:31,310 --> 00:15:29,399 gets to him we've revealed examples of 401 00:15:33,170 --> 00:15:31,320 that the mosul orb and the Baghdad 402 00:15:35,509 --> 00:15:33,180 fandom that we reveal to the world on 403 00:15:37,189 --> 00:15:35,519 this program did not make their way to 404 00:15:39,470 --> 00:15:37,199 Arrow they're probably there now but 405 00:15:42,350 --> 00:15:39,480 there's another example well hold on and 406 00:15:45,769 --> 00:15:42,360 neither did neither did any of the 2019 407 00:15:48,230 --> 00:15:45,779 from the USS Omaha the USS Russell the 408 00:15:50,810 --> 00:15:48,240 thermal the the infrared like everything 409 00:15:52,850 --> 00:15:50,820 that we put out none of that had had 410 00:15:55,790 --> 00:15:52,860 gone up the proper chain of command I'm 411 00:15:57,949 --> 00:15:55,800 really hoping that that was healed in 412 00:15:59,870 --> 00:15:57,959 some way and and we have something more 413 00:16:01,069 --> 00:15:59,880 that I think we're going to do but I 414 00:16:04,730 --> 00:16:01,079 want to go back a little bit to just 415 00:16:06,350 --> 00:16:04,740 catching up with with you uh so I know 416 00:16:08,750 --> 00:16:06,360 that you brought the Skinwalker Ranch 417 00:16:12,530 --> 00:16:08,760 story to the world you brought the 418 00:16:13,970 --> 00:16:12,540 awesome story to the world when uh we'll 419 00:16:15,530 --> 00:16:13,980 talk more about that later but a lot of 420 00:16:19,009 --> 00:16:15,540 people didn't understand that there was 421 00:16:20,990 --> 00:16:19,019 a UFO I call it a mother program that 422 00:16:24,290 --> 00:16:21,000 handled everything for 22 million bucks 423 00:16:26,090 --> 00:16:24,300 and and you broke all those stories uh 424 00:16:28,790 --> 00:16:26,100 one of the things that I I think is 425 00:16:31,189 --> 00:16:28,800 exciting is there's a new project that 426 00:16:33,710 --> 00:16:31,199 that is happening around the orbit of 427 00:16:35,569 --> 00:16:33,720 what you did can you give us all a hint 428 00:16:37,670 --> 00:16:35,579 yeah so 429 00:16:40,009 --> 00:16:37,680 um as I've explained on this program and 430 00:16:42,829 --> 00:16:40,019 in other interviews uh my interest in 431 00:16:45,829 --> 00:16:42,839 Skinwalker Ranch started in the mid 90s 432 00:16:47,990 --> 00:16:45,839 not long after Robert Bigelow and his 433 00:16:49,610 --> 00:16:48,000 nid's team took up residence on the 434 00:16:51,710 --> 00:16:49,620 ranch they started studying the ranch 435 00:16:54,889 --> 00:16:51,720 had all these incredible experiences 436 00:16:57,290 --> 00:16:54,899 UFOs Cryptid creatures Poltergeist type 437 00:17:00,170 --> 00:16:57,300 activity cattle mutilations you name it 438 00:17:01,730 --> 00:17:00,180 and they would let me in on some of it I 439 00:17:04,309 --> 00:17:01,740 was like a fly on the wall for a lot of 440 00:17:07,069 --> 00:17:04,319 it but could not report it around 2 2000 441 00:17:09,530 --> 00:17:07,079 I finally convinced Mr Bigelow to let me 442 00:17:12,650 --> 00:17:09,540 go on the ranch took a photographer and 443 00:17:14,449 --> 00:17:12,660 intended to make a film after visiting 444 00:17:16,669 --> 00:17:14,459 there eight or nine times I think and 445 00:17:18,169 --> 00:17:16,679 shooting video Mr Bigelow changed his 446 00:17:20,809 --> 00:17:18,179 mind thought the film would be a bad 447 00:17:22,970 --> 00:17:20,819 idea turn it into the area 51 the 448 00:17:25,850 --> 00:17:22,980 Paranormal site to be overrun by crazy 449 00:17:28,490 --> 00:17:25,860 UFO people and he was right he was 450 00:17:31,430 --> 00:17:28,500 absolutely right so uh so the film 451 00:17:32,990 --> 00:17:31,440 project was dead and then I pestered him 452 00:17:34,730 --> 00:17:33,000 a little bit more and said can I write 453 00:17:37,370 --> 00:17:34,740 about it I won't say where the ranch is 454 00:17:39,650 --> 00:17:37,380 as if you know people figure it out and 455 00:17:42,289 --> 00:17:39,660 he gave the okay and in 2002 I wrote 456 00:17:44,570 --> 00:17:42,299 These articles for Las Vegas Mercury and 457 00:17:47,150 --> 00:17:44,580 then three years later collaborating 458 00:17:48,950 --> 00:17:47,160 with my friend our friend Dr Colin 459 00:17:51,230 --> 00:17:48,960 Kelleher we put out a book called hunt 460 00:17:53,270 --> 00:17:51,240 for the skinwalker and it told this 461 00:17:55,490 --> 00:17:53,280 incredible story and it it did really 462 00:17:57,830 --> 00:17:55,500 well it you know it puts Skinwalker 463 00:17:59,990 --> 00:17:57,840 Ranch on the map the book was not 464 00:18:01,730 --> 00:18:00,000 perfect it was soft cover we didn't have 465 00:18:04,310 --> 00:18:01,740 any photos in it there were some things 466 00:18:06,230 --> 00:18:04,320 that we could not include but now there 467 00:18:07,789 --> 00:18:06,240 is a new platform and a new project and 468 00:18:10,130 --> 00:18:07,799 we're pretty excited about it I don't 469 00:18:12,230 --> 00:18:10,140 want to give do too much plug Ola here 470 00:18:14,270 --> 00:18:12,240 but it is kind of cool it's a company 471 00:18:16,789 --> 00:18:14,280 called boom they're a graphic novel 472 00:18:18,710 --> 00:18:16,799 comic book company they've uh we've been 473 00:18:20,870 --> 00:18:18,720 negotiating back and forth for a number 474 00:18:22,789 --> 00:18:20,880 of years with them and finally they've 475 00:18:24,950 --> 00:18:22,799 done the green light for to make a 476 00:18:26,750 --> 00:18:24,960 graphic novel series uh based on our 477 00:18:28,669 --> 00:18:26,760 book hunt for the skinwalker it's 478 00:18:31,010 --> 00:18:28,679 already in the works they've hired the 479 00:18:34,010 --> 00:18:31,020 writer and the artists and it's really 480 00:18:36,350 --> 00:18:34,020 exciting uh the I think the issue number 481 00:18:39,230 --> 00:18:36,360 one will be coming out in September 482 00:18:42,049 --> 00:18:39,240 eventually they'll put One issues one 483 00:18:45,230 --> 00:18:42,059 through five into a book form a graphic 484 00:18:47,090 --> 00:18:45,240 novel form but along the way they have 485 00:18:48,590 --> 00:18:47,100 this Kickstarter campaign going where 486 00:18:52,430 --> 00:18:48,600 people could get in on the ground floor 487 00:18:54,049 --> 00:18:52,440 and among the little extra goodies that 488 00:18:55,549 --> 00:18:54,059 are offered is something that I really 489 00:18:57,590 --> 00:18:55,559 would like to have and that is a 490 00:18:59,090 --> 00:18:57,600 hardcover version of that book they're 491 00:19:01,430 --> 00:18:59,100 going to do a hardcover version of hunt 492 00:19:03,470 --> 00:19:01,440 for the skinwalker expanded and updated 493 00:19:05,210 --> 00:19:03,480 column and I are writing new material 494 00:19:06,950 --> 00:19:05,220 for it we're going to include photos 495 00:19:09,289 --> 00:19:06,960 we're going to include some documents in 496 00:19:12,110 --> 00:19:09,299 there some timelines of things that have 497 00:19:14,330 --> 00:19:12,120 never been made public before to go 498 00:19:16,610 --> 00:19:14,340 along with the graphic novel approach 499 00:19:18,590 --> 00:19:16,620 and it's really exciting so you get this 500 00:19:20,450 --> 00:19:18,600 time to kind of tell your story and kind 501 00:19:23,150 --> 00:19:20,460 of what you researched all those years 502 00:19:24,830 --> 00:19:23,160 but include documents and footage and 503 00:19:26,510 --> 00:19:24,840 extra bits and yeah I just want to ask 504 00:19:28,250 --> 00:19:26,520 you about that on the show because I was 505 00:19:29,690 --> 00:19:28,260 excited when I saw that stuff come up 506 00:19:31,490 --> 00:19:29,700 and I congratulations I think that's 507 00:19:33,230 --> 00:19:31,500 super cool yeah it's gonna it's thrill 508 00:19:35,090 --> 00:19:33,240 I'm thrilling it's thrilling to work 509 00:19:37,850 --> 00:19:35,100 with these really talented folks and 510 00:19:39,950 --> 00:19:37,860 it's fun I mean I learned my vocabulary 511 00:19:41,870 --> 00:19:39,960 from comic books growing up I bought all 512 00:19:43,549 --> 00:19:41,880 that stuff as a kid I'd be a wealthy 513 00:19:45,650 --> 00:19:43,559 wealthy man if I had saved all those 514 00:19:48,110 --> 00:19:45,660 comics from from when I was a Youngster 515 00:19:50,270 --> 00:19:48,120 Fantastic Four and Thor and Hulk and 516 00:19:52,850 --> 00:19:50,280 Spider-Man and first editions of DC 517 00:19:54,230 --> 00:19:52,860 stuff but I didn't they they lost I mean 518 00:19:56,510 --> 00:19:54,240 there's a million people out there 519 00:19:57,650 --> 00:19:56,520 listening to this now who think the same 520 00:19:59,150 --> 00:19:57,660 thing happened to their comic book 521 00:20:00,590 --> 00:19:59,160 collection mom tossed it out or 522 00:20:03,230 --> 00:20:00,600 something but 523 00:20:05,090 --> 00:20:03,240 um so I love the comic book genre this 524 00:20:06,529 --> 00:20:05,100 is a chance to tell the story of hunt 525 00:20:09,770 --> 00:20:06,539 for the skinwalker to a brand new 526 00:20:11,690 --> 00:20:09,780 audience in a on a new platform uh it'll 527 00:20:13,310 --> 00:20:11,700 be fun it's easier than reading the 528 00:20:14,630 --> 00:20:13,320 actual book but if you wanted to 529 00:20:16,130 --> 00:20:14,640 supplement it with a book we're going to 530 00:20:17,630 --> 00:20:16,140 have a new edition and a lot of other 531 00:20:19,070 --> 00:20:17,640 things that go along with it we'll put 532 00:20:20,870 --> 00:20:19,080 some information on the screen for 533 00:20:22,430 --> 00:20:20,880 people who are interested in it yeah 534 00:20:23,870 --> 00:20:22,440 it's not a hard book to read it's an 535 00:20:26,390 --> 00:20:23,880 exciting book to read 536 00:20:29,930 --> 00:20:26,400 um anyway so listen today what I was 537 00:20:32,510 --> 00:20:29,940 thinking man is we know that there has 538 00:20:34,970 --> 00:20:32,520 been this kind of Disconnect of events 539 00:20:36,710 --> 00:20:34,980 that occur and then getting them kind of 540 00:20:38,930 --> 00:20:36,720 not only out to the public but kind of 541 00:20:40,730 --> 00:20:38,940 up to the chain of command like getting 542 00:20:43,970 --> 00:20:40,740 stuff to arrow and getting it there in 543 00:20:47,029 --> 00:20:43,980 the right place so I think we should uh 544 00:20:48,950 --> 00:20:47,039 we have been working on a case it is two 545 00:20:51,110 --> 00:20:48,960 years so two years ago this thing 546 00:20:53,450 --> 00:20:51,120 happened and nothing has come out 547 00:20:55,850 --> 00:20:53,460 there's been no media coverage in the 548 00:20:59,390 --> 00:20:55,860 two years since when this first kind of 549 00:21:01,430 --> 00:20:59,400 came into my awareness it had not it has 550 00:21:03,950 --> 00:21:01,440 not been exposed to the world but why it 551 00:21:06,289 --> 00:21:03,960 was important is because it was at a 552 00:21:08,029 --> 00:21:06,299 military base and that was really 553 00:21:09,770 --> 00:21:08,039 interesting that's an incursion right if 554 00:21:12,230 --> 00:21:09,780 you have something over a military base 555 00:21:15,190 --> 00:21:12,240 there were a flood of reports that I got 556 00:21:18,710 --> 00:21:15,200 of triangle shaped craft 557 00:21:22,370 --> 00:21:18,720 incursions over military bases now I got 558 00:21:24,890 --> 00:21:22,380 a tip a heads up you know who are you 559 00:21:26,450 --> 00:21:24,900 gonna call I don't know well just as a 560 00:21:29,049 --> 00:21:26,460 way of background the place where this 561 00:21:32,570 --> 00:21:29,059 happened it's 29 Palms it's the largest 562 00:21:34,430 --> 00:21:32,580 U.S Marine base anywhere it's right in 563 00:21:35,990 --> 00:21:34,440 your backyard you lived in that area for 564 00:21:38,029 --> 00:21:36,000 a long time you had a lot of friendships 565 00:21:39,649 --> 00:21:38,039 there so if anybody's going to get this 566 00:21:42,830 --> 00:21:39,659 information about something that happens 567 00:21:45,110 --> 00:21:42,840 at 29 Palms it'd be you yeah it's in my 568 00:21:47,930 --> 00:21:45,120 backyard I'm gonna hear the bombs going 569 00:21:50,149 --> 00:21:47,940 off but yeah it's a huge military base 570 00:21:53,390 --> 00:21:50,159 actually a lot of uh a lot of Navy 571 00:21:54,529 --> 00:21:53,400 people will come to uh Pappy and 572 00:21:58,310 --> 00:21:54,539 Harriet's which is one of my favorite 573 00:22:00,409 --> 00:21:58,320 saloons in the area but it's it it's a 574 00:22:02,570 --> 00:22:00,419 Marine base and what's really 575 00:22:04,070 --> 00:22:02,580 interesting about this is that I got a 576 00:22:07,610 --> 00:22:04,080 tip so let me just tell I guess just 577 00:22:11,510 --> 00:22:07,620 tell the base works yeah so I got a tip 578 00:22:13,130 --> 00:22:11,520 uh from two bases at the time but the 579 00:22:15,590 --> 00:22:13,140 tip was basically like something 580 00:22:17,870 --> 00:22:15,600 happened and you should look into it 581 00:22:19,850 --> 00:22:17,880 click and I'm like oh no like but it was 582 00:22:22,310 --> 00:22:19,860 you know from a high up you know so I'm 583 00:22:26,330 --> 00:22:22,320 something probably did happen so then 584 00:22:28,310 --> 00:22:26,340 being able to find people who were there 585 00:22:29,690 --> 00:22:28,320 training at that time I thought this is 586 00:22:31,010 --> 00:22:29,700 going to take me forever how am I going 587 00:22:32,830 --> 00:22:31,020 to do this 588 00:22:36,230 --> 00:22:32,840 it wasn't 589 00:22:39,830 --> 00:22:36,240 36 hours after the event I got people on 590 00:22:42,110 --> 00:22:39,840 the phone I got images I got videos I 591 00:22:45,110 --> 00:22:42,120 was like holy [\h__\h] this is this happened 592 00:22:49,250 --> 00:22:45,120 something happened so 593 00:22:52,070 --> 00:22:49,260 what happened is there was a craft that 594 00:22:55,250 --> 00:22:52,080 came over this military it's called 595 00:22:58,010 --> 00:22:55,260 installation this military place and it 596 00:23:00,710 --> 00:22:58,020 was reported to me that it was looked 597 00:23:03,470 --> 00:23:00,720 like a V formation it was like a 598 00:23:06,710 --> 00:23:03,480 triangle by angle of observation 599 00:23:08,990 --> 00:23:06,720 and as this imagery and video is coming 600 00:23:11,390 --> 00:23:09,000 in I I started asking people I started 601 00:23:13,070 --> 00:23:11,400 reaching out to everybody I knew that 602 00:23:14,630 --> 00:23:13,080 could know somebody that was on the 603 00:23:15,950 --> 00:23:14,640 ground at that time 604 00:23:20,810 --> 00:23:15,960 and 605 00:23:24,169 --> 00:23:20,820 corroborative different angles same 606 00:23:26,750 --> 00:23:24,179 event this is what I would call a mass 607 00:23:29,750 --> 00:23:26,760 sighting it was more than 50 people that 608 00:23:32,330 --> 00:23:29,760 I personally know were staring up and 609 00:23:34,970 --> 00:23:32,340 looking at this object at one time it 610 00:23:37,909 --> 00:23:34,980 resembled to me like the Phoenix Lights 611 00:23:39,590 --> 00:23:37,919 how you see that perfect v-shaped row of 612 00:23:43,010 --> 00:23:39,600 Lights 613 00:23:45,770 --> 00:23:43,020 so this will progress as we talk about 614 00:23:47,390 --> 00:23:45,780 it because my skeptic mind is saying oh 615 00:23:49,010 --> 00:23:47,400 it's over a military base probably some 616 00:23:51,169 --> 00:23:49,020 military weaponry 617 00:23:52,789 --> 00:23:51,179 let's show the first video and let's 618 00:24:05,710 --> 00:23:52,799 talk it through so people cannot 619 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:13,510 what it is 620 00:24:19,010 --> 00:24:16,490 so that was the first clip that I saw 621 00:24:22,310 --> 00:24:19,020 and in the timeline of the event because 622 00:24:25,010 --> 00:24:22,320 I have so many videos and images now 623 00:24:27,169 --> 00:24:25,020 there's a sense of astonishment 624 00:24:30,230 --> 00:24:27,179 what is that that's what you hear in the 625 00:24:32,210 --> 00:24:30,240 video and the thing is somebody was just 626 00:24:35,810 --> 00:24:32,220 standing outside and this thing just 627 00:24:38,270 --> 00:24:35,820 appeared and in in actuality they could 628 00:24:39,590 --> 00:24:38,280 see the body of it in in the footage you 629 00:24:41,390 --> 00:24:39,600 can't see the body because it's like you 630 00:24:43,850 --> 00:24:41,400 know an iPhone sticking up towards the 631 00:24:45,470 --> 00:24:43,860 sky but that was the first video it was 632 00:24:47,510 --> 00:24:45,480 kind of like not a lot of people were 633 00:24:49,730 --> 00:24:47,520 outside of the barracks at that time and 634 00:24:52,430 --> 00:24:49,740 it was just like what is that and then 635 00:24:54,830 --> 00:24:52,440 suddenly there's a little hubbub and and 636 00:24:57,649 --> 00:24:54,840 you hear a murmuring and remarks and and 637 00:24:59,870 --> 00:24:57,659 they crowd outside looking at this thing 638 00:25:01,669 --> 00:24:59,880 gets bigger yeah so the word starts 639 00:25:03,590 --> 00:25:01,679 spreading hey come outside check this 640 00:25:07,370 --> 00:25:03,600 out but that had already been up in the 641 00:25:10,490 --> 00:25:07,380 vicinity for maybe four minutes by the 642 00:25:11,930 --> 00:25:10,500 time the first video is being taken so 643 00:25:14,149 --> 00:25:11,940 you know they grab their cell phones 644 00:25:16,010 --> 00:25:14,159 they start videoing the sky and again 645 00:25:17,390 --> 00:25:16,020 it's it's black on black so I'm like not 646 00:25:19,730 --> 00:25:17,400 that impressed because it's like you 647 00:25:21,049 --> 00:25:19,740 can't see that much but as the crowd 648 00:25:22,669 --> 00:25:21,059 starts forming and everybody's looking 649 00:25:24,110 --> 00:25:22,679 up that's when you start you know 650 00:25:25,909 --> 00:25:24,120 hearing people kind of get more excited 651 00:25:30,409 --> 00:25:25,919 so let's check out this second video 652 00:25:34,010 --> 00:25:32,029 those are not alone rounds because the 653 00:25:36,649 --> 00:25:34,020 room rounds fall yeah 654 00:25:36,659 --> 00:25:45,289 and nobody shoots in a five gun section 655 00:25:45,299 --> 00:25:48,310 it's moving 656 00:25:53,870 --> 00:25:51,470 Your Leader oh hell no 657 00:25:55,490 --> 00:25:53,880 yo we got aliens out here don't 658 00:25:57,289 --> 00:25:55,500 this my phone camera says no this is 659 00:26:00,909 --> 00:25:57,299 [\h__\h] weird 660 00:26:04,549 --> 00:26:00,919 we got UFOs outside yo 661 00:26:07,850 --> 00:26:06,649 these are U.S Marines they're among 662 00:26:10,070 --> 00:26:07,860 their buddies they're they're the 663 00:26:11,870 --> 00:26:10,080 toughest guys in the world and it's kind 664 00:26:14,510 --> 00:26:11,880 of sorry you can sense a little bravado 665 00:26:16,789 --> 00:26:14,520 there you know it's aliens and I'm not 666 00:26:17,990 --> 00:26:16,799 afraid of It kind of implied thing uh 667 00:26:20,269 --> 00:26:18,000 but 668 00:26:22,430 --> 00:26:20,279 um you know obviously they are they are 669 00:26:24,710 --> 00:26:22,440 conceived that something unusual is 670 00:26:26,210 --> 00:26:24,720 underway yeah yeah it was so from all 671 00:26:27,529 --> 00:26:26,220 descriptions from everybody that I've 672 00:26:29,390 --> 00:26:27,539 talked with that was actually there on 673 00:26:32,390 --> 00:26:29,400 the ground it was really kind of like 674 00:26:34,370 --> 00:26:32,400 chill at first and then as people were 675 00:26:37,430 --> 00:26:34,380 coming out you kind of hear well it's 676 00:26:39,890 --> 00:26:37,440 moving so apparently this craft it was 677 00:26:42,769 --> 00:26:39,900 just slightly moving but it was mainly 678 00:26:45,169 --> 00:26:42,779 paused in one place but there was Zero 679 00:26:46,610 --> 00:26:45,179 sound and so this thing is there and 680 00:26:49,669 --> 00:26:46,620 people are kind of being like Oh it's 681 00:26:51,169 --> 00:26:49,679 aliens UFOs they realize that it is 682 00:26:53,029 --> 00:26:51,179 different than anything that they had 683 00:26:55,669 --> 00:26:53,039 seen before they also you hear them say 684 00:26:58,549 --> 00:26:55,679 you know those aren't flares 685 00:27:00,169 --> 00:26:58,559 um and nobody shoots in a in a five 686 00:27:02,510 --> 00:27:00,179 section whatever they said I don't 687 00:27:05,930 --> 00:27:02,520 remember the video but 688 00:27:07,490 --> 00:27:05,940 they're basically trying to figure out 689 00:27:08,930 --> 00:27:07,500 what it is that they're seeing because 690 00:27:10,909 --> 00:27:08,940 it's a little bit different than 691 00:27:12,590 --> 00:27:10,919 something that they've seen before but 692 00:27:14,029 --> 00:27:12,600 it kind of increases you know more 693 00:27:16,370 --> 00:27:14,039 people come out there's a lot of 694 00:27:18,110 --> 00:27:16,380 excitement so there's a couple more 695 00:27:19,669 --> 00:27:18,120 videos I want to show you and see what 696 00:27:28,149 --> 00:27:19,679 you think about this so next one let's 697 00:27:28,159 --> 00:27:41,830 what is the [\h__\h] 698 00:27:47,630 --> 00:27:45,110 now it's not showing up in my camera so 699 00:27:49,610 --> 00:27:47,640 I like the fact that the guy pans over 700 00:27:50,990 --> 00:27:49,620 and shows the barracks yeah as a 701 00:27:52,669 --> 00:27:51,000 reference point because otherwise you 702 00:27:55,190 --> 00:27:52,679 have no reference at all you have lights 703 00:27:56,810 --> 00:27:55,200 in a sea of Inky Darkness yeah so that 704 00:27:58,549 --> 00:27:56,820 was the first thing like when I saw the 705 00:28:00,350 --> 00:27:58,559 barracks and I got tipped off to it I 706 00:28:02,930 --> 00:28:00,360 went and did a search and it was 707 00:28:05,570 --> 00:28:02,940 actually Camp Wilson since it's 29 Palms 708 00:28:07,669 --> 00:28:05,580 military base but Camp Wilson was the 709 00:28:09,169 --> 00:28:07,679 kind of specific little area that they 710 00:28:11,690 --> 00:28:09,179 were and I could recognize those 711 00:28:13,850 --> 00:28:11,700 barracks in two seconds so that was nice 712 00:28:15,830 --> 00:28:13,860 they gave that perspective and then kind 713 00:28:17,149 --> 00:28:15,840 of went back up to the sky I mean the 714 00:28:18,409 --> 00:28:17,159 kids are finding they're like I'm about 715 00:28:19,669 --> 00:28:18,419 to be one of those crazy old 716 00:28:21,950 --> 00:28:19,679 [\h__\h] you know they're like 717 00:28:26,870 --> 00:28:21,960 they're like what is this you know um 718 00:28:29,570 --> 00:28:26,880 that base is 596 000 Acres uh 900 some 719 00:28:31,190 --> 00:28:29,580 square miles it's gigantic they do all 720 00:28:33,590 --> 00:28:31,200 kinds of training out there year round 721 00:28:35,090 --> 00:28:33,600 those Marines are used to seeing things 722 00:28:37,730 --> 00:28:35,100 in the sky it's part of their training 723 00:28:39,529 --> 00:28:37,740 planes and and flares and maybe balloons 724 00:28:41,149 --> 00:28:39,539 and things of that sort obviously you 725 00:28:42,649 --> 00:28:41,159 can tell from the tone of their voice 726 00:28:45,350 --> 00:28:42,659 this looks different from what they're 727 00:28:48,049 --> 00:28:45,360 used to seeing yeah absolutely and it is 728 00:28:51,649 --> 00:28:48,059 a live training range just a couple 729 00:28:52,850 --> 00:28:51,659 weeks ago I heard bombs going up you can 730 00:28:56,390 --> 00:28:52,860 feel them when you live out there you 731 00:28:59,450 --> 00:28:56,400 feel those bombs going off so it is it 732 00:29:03,049 --> 00:28:59,460 is an area that is of high activity and 733 00:29:05,029 --> 00:29:03,059 a lot of these marines have been in the 734 00:29:08,330 --> 00:29:05,039 military for quite some time so they 735 00:29:10,610 --> 00:29:08,340 know what normal uh aircraft and 736 00:29:12,769 --> 00:29:10,620 weaponry looks like so you kind of felt 737 00:29:14,630 --> 00:29:12,779 this like growing sensation of like 738 00:29:16,610 --> 00:29:14,640 what's going on here and then all hell 739 00:29:18,230 --> 00:29:16,620 breaks loose I mean it's it's hilarious 740 00:29:20,330 --> 00:29:18,240 they're they're laughing they're 741 00:29:22,250 --> 00:29:20,340 screaming stuff but I want to play it 742 00:29:24,710 --> 00:29:22,260 just as it came to me so you see these 743 00:29:26,930 --> 00:29:24,720 different moments and this is the actual 744 00:29:28,909 --> 00:29:26,940 timing of it like these clips are in 745 00:29:30,110 --> 00:29:28,919 order as I'm showing them to you so this 746 00:29:31,909 --> 00:29:30,120 last one's kind of funny it's pretty 747 00:29:38,330 --> 00:29:31,919 neat 748 00:29:38,340 --> 00:29:46,490 fun there's more lights around it 749 00:29:50,389 --> 00:29:48,590 I love the color commentary that goes 750 00:29:52,549 --> 00:29:50,399 along with us a couple of questions come 751 00:29:55,149 --> 00:29:52,559 to mind it looks like the lights are 752 00:29:57,710 --> 00:29:55,159 blinking on and off oh yeah is that an 753 00:29:59,149 --> 00:29:57,720 affectation from the camera or is it 754 00:30:01,669 --> 00:29:59,159 clouds or what do you make of that yeah 755 00:30:04,070 --> 00:30:01,679 the lights were not blinking on and off 756 00:30:05,630 --> 00:30:04,080 there's the in Focus out of focus thing 757 00:30:09,529 --> 00:30:05,640 that you can see in some of these clips 758 00:30:12,529 --> 00:30:09,539 but the lights were steady but there 759 00:30:14,090 --> 00:30:12,539 were some auxiliary lights and I don't 760 00:30:16,490 --> 00:30:14,100 have a bunch of that in the footage but 761 00:30:17,990 --> 00:30:16,500 all the witnesses were saying that you 762 00:30:20,990 --> 00:30:18,000 know kind of like a sparkle there were 763 00:30:22,370 --> 00:30:21,000 tiny little things around it at times I 764 00:30:24,950 --> 00:30:22,380 don't have good footage of that that's 765 00:30:28,250 --> 00:30:24,960 just witness report but 766 00:30:31,250 --> 00:30:28,260 it was mainly these these five lights in 767 00:30:33,470 --> 00:30:31,260 this v formation it very much looks like 768 00:30:35,570 --> 00:30:33,480 the Phoenix Lights uh video that that 769 00:30:37,310 --> 00:30:35,580 the world has seen and it makes you 770 00:30:39,470 --> 00:30:37,320 wonder what the heck is this so 771 00:30:41,870 --> 00:30:39,480 obviously it's a military base they do a 772 00:30:43,370 --> 00:30:41,880 lot of training out there why not flares 773 00:30:45,350 --> 00:30:43,380 couldn't it be flares because that's the 774 00:30:47,990 --> 00:30:45,360 explanation people will come up with for 775 00:30:49,850 --> 00:30:48,000 this kind of a thing right so the object 776 00:30:51,590 --> 00:30:49,860 was was sitting there so I'm not going 777 00:30:54,889 --> 00:30:51,600 to say object anymore it was a craft the 778 00:30:56,870 --> 00:30:54,899 craft was sitting there and it was the 779 00:30:58,789 --> 00:30:56,880 the eyewitnesses could see the 780 00:31:00,169 --> 00:30:58,799 silhouette at night you know that you've 781 00:31:02,690 --> 00:31:00,179 heard it in one of the clips they could 782 00:31:04,610 --> 00:31:02,700 see a silhouette of the the triangle by 783 00:31:06,110 --> 00:31:04,620 angle of observation some people would 784 00:31:08,690 --> 00:31:06,120 say pyramid if it's three-dimensional 785 00:31:10,310 --> 00:31:08,700 but anyway I don't even go there don't 786 00:31:13,669 --> 00:31:10,320 even go there is a triangle my angle of 787 00:31:15,649 --> 00:31:13,679 observation so the thing is is that it 788 00:31:17,090 --> 00:31:15,659 was sitting there and it was the thing 789 00:31:19,250 --> 00:31:17,100 that was most ominous from people I've 790 00:31:23,570 --> 00:31:19,260 talked to is that it was absolutely 791 00:31:26,570 --> 00:31:23,580 silent and it was big and the size of it 792 00:31:28,850 --> 00:31:26,580 now you're asking about if it was flares 793 00:31:31,010 --> 00:31:28,860 that's that's a very common that first 794 00:31:33,830 --> 00:31:31,020 thing I want the first debunking tactic 795 00:31:35,389 --> 00:31:33,840 that we used right yeah so you heard in 796 00:31:37,430 --> 00:31:35,399 an earlier piece nobody shoots in a five 797 00:31:39,230 --> 00:31:37,440 gun row or some whatever his exact words 798 00:31:41,210 --> 00:31:39,240 were he was saying that when you're 799 00:31:43,730 --> 00:31:41,220 dropping flares or something like that 800 00:31:45,769 --> 00:31:43,740 you have a pattern that you created it's 801 00:31:48,769 --> 00:31:45,779 never like that but here's the the issue 802 00:31:51,169 --> 00:31:48,779 the issue is these lights were a totally 803 00:31:53,510 --> 00:31:51,179 different color than flares these were 804 00:31:55,490 --> 00:31:53,520 more reddish when you have like Lumen 805 00:31:57,529 --> 00:31:55,500 flares which are Illuminating rounds 806 00:32:00,049 --> 00:31:57,539 that you shoot up to highlight and 807 00:32:01,850 --> 00:32:00,059 illuminate the area totally totally 808 00:32:03,769 --> 00:32:01,860 different color it'd be great if you had 809 00:32:05,389 --> 00:32:03,779 a comparison a side-by-side comparison 810 00:32:07,070 --> 00:32:05,399 that would be great players for you know 811 00:32:09,590 --> 00:32:07,080 that would be great but also I I just 812 00:32:11,630 --> 00:32:09,600 want to say also flares descend yeah 813 00:32:14,090 --> 00:32:11,640 right so there's there's a rate at which 814 00:32:16,549 --> 00:32:14,100 they descend they're on parachutes so 815 00:32:20,029 --> 00:32:16,559 this was not flares this thing sat up 816 00:32:22,850 --> 00:32:20,039 there absolutely still maybe a tiny 817 00:32:25,010 --> 00:32:22,860 little forward movement at one point it 818 00:32:27,409 --> 00:32:25,020 sat there absolutely still but more 819 00:32:29,570 --> 00:32:27,419 importantly rather than it's not 820 00:32:32,090 --> 00:32:29,580 descending over 10 minutes the 821 00:32:34,070 --> 00:32:32,100 eyewitnesses could see a shape now we 822 00:32:36,049 --> 00:32:34,080 don't see it in the video but the 823 00:32:38,090 --> 00:32:36,059 eyewitnesses could see the triangle 824 00:32:41,090 --> 00:32:38,100 shape however 825 00:32:43,610 --> 00:32:41,100 we lucked out 826 00:32:46,250 --> 00:32:43,620 the Marines a different a totally 827 00:32:49,850 --> 00:32:46,260 different Detachment they shot up some 828 00:32:51,649 --> 00:32:49,860 Lumen rounds some flares to illuminate 829 00:32:53,570 --> 00:32:51,659 this craft to see if they can get a 830 00:32:54,950 --> 00:32:53,580 better look at it and so what you're 831 00:32:56,990 --> 00:32:54,960 going to see right now 832 00:32:58,610 --> 00:32:57,000 is a video it's kind of out of focus at 833 00:33:01,130 --> 00:32:58,620 first so you see these kind of more 834 00:33:03,470 --> 00:33:01,140 bright yellow white lights and you'll 835 00:33:06,529 --> 00:33:03,480 see as the camera focuses they're 836 00:33:08,570 --> 00:33:06,539 starting to descend right on top of this 837 00:33:11,269 --> 00:33:08,580 craft that was there so we can we can 838 00:33:13,669 --> 00:33:11,279 clearly see now what flares look like 839 00:33:16,430 --> 00:33:13,679 and what this string of lights on a 840 00:33:18,649 --> 00:33:16,440 craft look like the odd part is and and 841 00:33:21,370 --> 00:33:18,659 the video clips out right at right after 842 00:33:25,070 --> 00:33:21,380 but as these Lumen flares drop down 843 00:33:28,310 --> 00:33:25,080 those lights from my eyes appear to just 844 00:33:29,870 --> 00:33:28,320 kind of blink out in succession however 845 00:33:33,169 --> 00:33:29,880 the people that were there 846 00:33:36,529 --> 00:33:33,179 they say that the entire craft 847 00:33:37,970 --> 00:33:36,539 disappeared the craft itself was no 848 00:33:40,250 --> 00:33:37,980 longer there because they could see a 849 00:33:41,810 --> 00:33:40,260 little bit better than this kind of poor 850 00:33:43,549 --> 00:33:41,820 footage that we have yeah you have to 851 00:33:45,830 --> 00:33:43,559 wonder how would it react you shoot 852 00:33:48,230 --> 00:33:45,840 flares above it so it's too light 853 00:33:50,029 --> 00:33:48,240 eliminated how might it react if it's 854 00:33:51,529 --> 00:33:50,039 intelligently controlled then let's see 855 00:33:55,310 --> 00:33:51,539 it yeah so that was what was interesting 856 00:33:55,320 --> 00:34:15,290 oh 857 00:34:20,089 --> 00:34:17,810 all right those the dominant image in 858 00:34:22,430 --> 00:34:20,099 that is these flares it's a big glowing 859 00:34:26,089 --> 00:34:22,440 thing and then it looks like the lights 860 00:34:27,889 --> 00:34:26,099 on this craft uh either disappear or 861 00:34:30,349 --> 00:34:27,899 they're out of focus yeah so so that's 862 00:34:32,450 --> 00:34:30,359 what so they shot up these Lumen rounds 863 00:34:35,030 --> 00:34:32,460 which are a different color and while 864 00:34:37,190 --> 00:34:35,040 the craft is stationary these Lumen 865 00:34:39,589 --> 00:34:37,200 rounds start descending then what 866 00:34:42,589 --> 00:34:39,599 happens is as it's getting close to that 867 00:34:44,329 --> 00:34:42,599 craft what what I see is that the the 868 00:34:46,190 --> 00:34:44,339 camera is going just a little out of 869 00:34:49,070 --> 00:34:46,200 focus and that's right where the clip 870 00:34:51,889 --> 00:34:49,080 ends but everybody there said it was 871 00:34:55,010 --> 00:34:51,899 gone like it it's as if it just blinked 872 00:34:56,990 --> 00:34:55,020 out it was no longer there so we don't 873 00:34:58,370 --> 00:34:57,000 have that footage of that exact mode I 874 00:35:01,490 --> 00:34:58,380 don't have it yet although there were a 875 00:35:03,170 --> 00:35:01,500 lot of people there so hey everybody if 876 00:35:04,970 --> 00:35:03,180 you have more footage send it our way 877 00:35:06,589 --> 00:35:04,980 well that's an interesting point is that 878 00:35:08,450 --> 00:35:06,599 you and I were in communication you're 879 00:35:10,250 --> 00:35:08,460 sharing with me as this process is 880 00:35:12,770 --> 00:35:10,260 underway you're trying to get as much 881 00:35:14,870 --> 00:35:12,780 info as many images as you can in your 882 00:35:18,530 --> 00:35:14,880 encouraging these guys to send it and 883 00:35:20,210 --> 00:35:18,540 you got a heck of a lot any photos that 884 00:35:22,010 --> 00:35:20,220 would go along with this that'd be 885 00:35:24,470 --> 00:35:22,020 pretty cool to see some still images oh 886 00:35:26,750 --> 00:35:24,480 yes I I tasked people with not only 887 00:35:29,329 --> 00:35:26,760 going around an air dropping and getting 888 00:35:31,790 --> 00:35:29,339 me a bunch of images but also to go the 889 00:35:33,710 --> 00:35:31,800 next day and show me what does it look 890 00:35:37,069 --> 00:35:33,720 like from your angle of observation 891 00:35:39,950 --> 00:35:37,079 during daytime right so back to this 892 00:35:42,890 --> 00:35:39,960 clip I think it's important to note that 893 00:35:45,589 --> 00:35:42,900 this this was an object it was a 894 00:35:47,390 --> 00:35:45,599 freaking big object the the estimates 895 00:35:49,910 --> 00:35:47,400 are between and they said it could be 896 00:35:52,550 --> 00:35:49,920 bigger but between a half of the size of 897 00:35:54,410 --> 00:35:52,560 a football field to like I said what's 898 00:35:56,990 --> 00:35:54,420 something you know okay 899 00:36:00,109 --> 00:35:57,000 three bedroom house two stories but but 900 00:36:02,569 --> 00:36:00,119 I think it's bigger right so the object 901 00:36:04,430 --> 00:36:02,579 was big the Eerie thing was that it was 902 00:36:06,230 --> 00:36:04,440 silent and then you've got these 903 00:36:07,550 --> 00:36:06,240 illumination flares that are coming down 904 00:36:09,109 --> 00:36:07,560 so you know what a flare looks like 905 00:36:11,329 --> 00:36:09,119 right 906 00:36:12,890 --> 00:36:11,339 but you you catch it I think the 907 00:36:15,410 --> 00:36:12,900 camera's going out of focus right then 908 00:36:17,870 --> 00:36:15,420 but everybody said as soon as those 909 00:36:19,730 --> 00:36:17,880 Lumen flares got to the point where that 910 00:36:21,650 --> 00:36:19,740 craft would have been illuminated you 911 00:36:24,109 --> 00:36:21,660 could see it better yeah it just 912 00:36:25,430 --> 00:36:24,119 vanished was their words it vanished it 913 00:36:27,470 --> 00:36:25,440 was no longer there I said what the 914 00:36:30,290 --> 00:36:27,480 lights went out they're like no the body 915 00:36:32,030 --> 00:36:30,300 of it everything gone how many people do 916 00:36:33,829 --> 00:36:32,040 you think were out watching it at least 917 00:36:36,050 --> 00:36:33,839 from the particular vantage point that 918 00:36:39,230 --> 00:36:36,060 we're talking about at any given time so 919 00:36:41,329 --> 00:36:39,240 I know for sure that there were a 50 920 00:36:43,970 --> 00:36:41,339 plus people standing in that same 921 00:36:47,450 --> 00:36:43,980 proximity at Camp Wilson but I'll tell 922 00:36:49,370 --> 00:36:47,460 you this man uh there was a big response 923 00:36:51,710 --> 00:36:49,380 we'll talk about that in a second but 924 00:36:54,950 --> 00:36:51,720 there was a big response to this so 925 00:36:57,410 --> 00:36:54,960 obviously a military base like ours 29 926 00:36:59,329 --> 00:36:57,420 Palms they're gonna have radar they're 927 00:37:00,050 --> 00:36:59,339 going to have thermal they're going to 928 00:37:03,170 --> 00:37:00,060 have 929 00:37:06,470 --> 00:37:03,180 all sorts of assets that are put to 930 00:37:08,870 --> 00:37:06,480 track on whatever this incursion was so 931 00:37:10,790 --> 00:37:08,880 I am hoping that by pushing this forward 932 00:37:12,770 --> 00:37:10,800 a little bit that we're going to get 933 00:37:14,810 --> 00:37:12,780 some more witnesses coming forward maybe 934 00:37:18,050 --> 00:37:14,820 maybe they can explain it maybe they can 935 00:37:19,790 --> 00:37:18,060 explain it to us but if nothing else we 936 00:37:21,050 --> 00:37:19,800 can get the data so I'm hoping more 937 00:37:23,930 --> 00:37:21,060 people come forward but you asked about 938 00:37:26,030 --> 00:37:23,940 photos yeah so a bunch of photos came in 939 00:37:30,829 --> 00:37:26,040 I got photos of like the line of Lights 940 00:37:34,010 --> 00:37:30,839 of 60 plus 5 ton carriers and and 941 00:37:35,930 --> 00:37:34,020 Humvees there were helicopters that were 942 00:37:38,210 --> 00:37:35,940 put up into the air and were circling 943 00:37:40,670 --> 00:37:38,220 until 11 30 p.m this happened about 8 30 944 00:37:42,770 --> 00:37:40,680 p.m so the base did respond oh did 945 00:37:46,130 --> 00:37:42,780 somebody at base command responded this 946 00:37:50,930 --> 00:37:46,140 was a big response helicopters planes 947 00:37:53,750 --> 00:37:50,940 and Personnel in fact that you know in 948 00:37:55,370 --> 00:37:53,760 in fact people were impressed by the 949 00:37:56,930 --> 00:37:55,380 response but let's talk about the photos 950 00:37:59,630 --> 00:37:56,940 real quick 951 00:38:00,829 --> 00:37:59,640 let me show a photo of just at night 952 00:38:02,990 --> 00:38:00,839 like what it looks like with like a 953 00:38:05,390 --> 00:38:03,000 camera again you don't see much you just 954 00:38:07,190 --> 00:38:05,400 see black Inky night and then you see 955 00:38:17,390 --> 00:38:07,200 some lights in a row let's show that 956 00:38:22,490 --> 00:38:20,030 I mean that photo is pretty cool there's 957 00:38:24,530 --> 00:38:22,500 a there's a building from Camp Wilson 958 00:38:26,390 --> 00:38:24,540 right there and that thing is clearly in 959 00:38:28,069 --> 00:38:26,400 the background of Camp Wilson you still 960 00:38:30,710 --> 00:38:28,079 can't really make out the shape from the 961 00:38:33,109 --> 00:38:30,720 photo but it's they're in proximity you 962 00:38:35,089 --> 00:38:33,119 get a general idea of it yeah so for me 963 00:38:37,609 --> 00:38:35,099 it's like the the cumulative stuff that 964 00:38:40,069 --> 00:38:37,619 was coming in so I get people at higher 965 00:38:42,589 --> 00:38:40,079 command telling me there's an event you 966 00:38:44,450 --> 00:38:42,599 should go for it I'm like okay cool I 967 00:38:47,089 --> 00:38:44,460 don't know anybody right now you know 968 00:38:50,030 --> 00:38:47,099 but I was able to to figure out and 969 00:38:52,550 --> 00:38:50,040 through friends and whatnot bam got a 970 00:38:54,109 --> 00:38:52,560 bunch of people I knew I knew it had 971 00:38:55,970 --> 00:38:54,119 happened I knew it was there but getting 972 00:38:58,010 --> 00:38:55,980 that one image was was pretty cool 973 00:38:59,930 --> 00:38:58,020 because it really sets the position it 974 00:39:02,569 --> 00:38:59,940 sets the location 975 00:39:05,030 --> 00:39:02,579 but I was like man I wish there was a 976 00:39:08,810 --> 00:39:05,040 better image you know and I know like 977 00:39:09,609 --> 00:39:08,820 with your iPhones with the iPhone 11 or 978 00:39:13,069 --> 00:39:09,619 whatever 979 00:39:15,589 --> 00:39:13,079 you can get low light photos yeah and 980 00:39:17,930 --> 00:39:15,599 man all of a sudden I was impressed 981 00:39:21,050 --> 00:39:17,940 because one of the photos that came into 982 00:39:23,810 --> 00:39:21,060 me was from a a buddy of mine and it had 983 00:39:26,450 --> 00:39:23,820 a low light function and you could see 984 00:39:28,430 --> 00:39:26,460 the shape of the craft yeah this is the 985 00:39:30,710 --> 00:39:28,440 coup de gras here yeah I think this this 986 00:39:33,589 --> 00:39:30,720 gives weight to the whole thing you have 987 00:39:35,990 --> 00:39:33,599 video you've got this this whole kind of 988 00:39:37,250 --> 00:39:36,000 network of people this is a mass siding 989 00:39:38,810 --> 00:39:37,260 I don't want to back up from that look 990 00:39:41,089 --> 00:39:38,820 this is a great sighting let's figure 991 00:39:43,609 --> 00:39:41,099 out what this is together because this 992 00:39:45,950 --> 00:39:43,619 has so many people with cameras and eyes 993 00:40:02,210 --> 00:39:45,960 on but this last image really showed me 994 00:40:06,950 --> 00:40:05,089 I mean that is a spectacular UFO photo 995 00:40:08,990 --> 00:40:06,960 right there yeah man if I had caught 996 00:40:10,730 --> 00:40:09,000 that photo I'd be pretty stoked you know 997 00:40:12,829 --> 00:40:10,740 and then to have all the corroborative 998 00:40:14,329 --> 00:40:12,839 video and and and gosh wouldn't it be 999 00:40:17,150 --> 00:40:14,339 neat if we could speak with people and 1000 00:40:19,790 --> 00:40:17,160 get them on record talking about this so 1001 00:40:21,650 --> 00:40:19,800 check it out Ma'am why that photo to me 1002 00:40:24,589 --> 00:40:21,660 was kind of like okay I should really 1003 00:40:26,510 --> 00:40:24,599 pay attention now is because 1004 00:40:28,069 --> 00:40:26,520 that was just one of the people standing 1005 00:40:29,870 --> 00:40:28,079 there that had the low light function on 1006 00:40:33,290 --> 00:40:29,880 their phone and what they described to 1007 00:40:36,650 --> 00:40:33,300 me is that we could all see or we could 1008 00:40:39,550 --> 00:40:36,660 most of us could see the shape of what 1009 00:40:42,829 --> 00:40:39,560 the craft looked like but that one photo 1010 00:40:45,589 --> 00:40:42,839 showed it it showed the triangle by 1011 00:40:47,810 --> 00:40:45,599 angle of observation 1012 00:40:49,790 --> 00:40:47,820 let's hear from some of the witnesses I 1013 00:40:52,609 --> 00:40:49,800 mean you you told me at one point there 1014 00:40:54,890 --> 00:40:52,619 might be 80 Witnesses who had seen it 1015 00:40:56,810 --> 00:40:54,900 and were willing to share information at 1016 00:40:58,550 --> 00:40:56,820 least bits and pieces right yeah so I'm 1017 00:41:00,410 --> 00:40:58,560 going to say 50 plus because that is 1018 00:41:02,990 --> 00:41:00,420 confirmed but if you think about the 1019 00:41:06,410 --> 00:41:03,000 response teams that went out oh easily 1020 00:41:08,270 --> 00:41:06,420 80 people are aware of this event so I I 1021 00:41:10,310 --> 00:41:08,280 think we should hear directly and to 1022 00:41:12,349 --> 00:41:10,320 give you an idea there's a lot we could 1023 00:41:14,510 --> 00:41:12,359 say about this but what I want people to 1024 00:41:16,310 --> 00:41:14,520 feel is like what it feels like to me 1025 00:41:21,470 --> 00:41:16,320 when I'm trying to uncover this stuff 1026 00:41:23,810 --> 00:41:21,480 this is just I think 36 hours after this 1027 00:41:26,150 --> 00:41:23,820 event something like that it was just 1028 00:41:28,609 --> 00:41:26,160 amazing to hear two people were willing 1029 00:41:31,010 --> 00:41:28,619 to talk with me and I I recorded the 1030 00:41:32,750 --> 00:41:31,020 conversation and you get a real sense of 1031 00:41:35,210 --> 00:41:32,760 what it felt like to be them at that 1032 00:41:37,790 --> 00:41:35,220 moment these are two at the time active 1033 00:41:39,410 --> 00:41:37,800 duty U.S Marines who were there saw it 1034 00:41:42,490 --> 00:41:39,420 for themselves and here's how they 1035 00:41:42,500 --> 00:41:46,190 thank you 1036 00:41:51,710 --> 00:41:48,950 so I'm a mortar man uh and he's 1037 00:41:54,170 --> 00:41:51,720 artillery what are the facts man like 1038 00:41:56,150 --> 00:41:54,180 what base which which Marine base and 1039 00:41:58,670 --> 00:41:56,160 what time was this 1040 00:42:01,190 --> 00:41:58,680 two nights ago it was roughly like 8 25 1041 00:42:04,069 --> 00:42:01,200 ish at night uh 1042 00:42:05,030 --> 00:42:04,079 it was near 29 Palms California so I 1043 00:42:06,470 --> 00:42:05,040 don't know if you're familiar with the 1044 00:42:10,310 --> 00:42:06,480 base at all but 1045 00:42:12,349 --> 00:42:10,320 Camp Wilson is attached to 29 Palms 1046 00:42:14,030 --> 00:42:12,359 it's like it's like a one-way Road in 1047 00:42:16,010 --> 00:42:14,040 and out of the camp 1048 00:42:17,630 --> 00:42:16,020 one of my buddies moved outside 1049 00:42:20,390 --> 00:42:17,640 he's looking at the sky and then it just 1050 00:42:21,829 --> 00:42:20,400 kind of appeared out of nowhere and 1051 00:42:23,690 --> 00:42:21,839 we all came out and looked and then 1052 00:42:25,490 --> 00:42:23,700 slowly like 50 plus people started 1053 00:42:27,109 --> 00:42:25,500 coming out and looking those lights 1054 00:42:29,690 --> 00:42:27,119 appeared out of nowhere 1055 00:42:31,550 --> 00:42:29,700 obviously a lot of people saw this what 1056 00:42:33,550 --> 00:42:31,560 did people think 1057 00:42:36,010 --> 00:42:33,560 they're just kind of 1058 00:42:38,150 --> 00:42:36,020 they were just kind of like 1059 00:42:39,650 --> 00:42:38,160 nobody could recognize it I mean we're 1060 00:42:42,349 --> 00:42:39,660 all in the military so you'd think we'd 1061 00:42:43,670 --> 00:42:42,359 this happened in a number of places I've 1062 00:42:45,710 --> 00:42:43,680 got reports from other people they're 1063 00:42:47,089 --> 00:42:45,720 coming in with the video you sent me was 1064 00:42:49,190 --> 00:42:47,099 that yours 1065 00:42:50,690 --> 00:42:49,200 yes that was fine that was from ISO and 1066 00:42:58,250 --> 00:42:50,700 the photo was that a still photo or 1067 00:43:03,650 --> 00:43:00,829 it's not flares uh because they stayed 1068 00:43:06,890 --> 00:43:03,660 there for a solid 10 minutes just 1069 00:43:09,410 --> 00:43:06,900 in the same spot and flares don't sit in 1070 00:43:12,109 --> 00:43:09,420 one spot for 10 minutes 1071 00:43:13,550 --> 00:43:12,119 no they definitely they fall so you 1072 00:43:16,430 --> 00:43:13,560 personally know that these were not 1073 00:43:17,990 --> 00:43:16,440 flares do you believe this was a craft 1074 00:43:19,970 --> 00:43:18,000 yeah I would have to believe so with the 1075 00:43:21,950 --> 00:43:19,980 picture I took with the black triangular 1076 00:43:24,650 --> 00:43:21,960 shape underneath the lights 1077 00:43:26,990 --> 00:43:24,660 it's definitely not any type of like 1078 00:43:28,910 --> 00:43:27,000 flare illumination rounds or anything I 1079 00:43:31,190 --> 00:43:28,920 didn't mean to fudge in but I worked 1080 00:43:33,530 --> 00:43:31,200 with artillery and we shoot illumination 1081 00:43:36,650 --> 00:43:33,540 rounds out of our Arty guns into the air 1082 00:43:39,589 --> 00:43:36,660 to loom uh infantry guys 1083 00:43:41,870 --> 00:43:39,599 and this was nothing compared to what 1084 00:43:43,550 --> 00:43:41,880 that is like this was something none of 1085 00:43:45,890 --> 00:43:43,560 us had ever seen before it was a 1086 00:43:48,589 --> 00:43:45,900 completely different color the size of 1087 00:43:50,510 --> 00:43:48,599 the illumination was different and when 1088 00:43:53,450 --> 00:43:50,520 we shoot illumination rounds it's one 1089 00:43:55,490 --> 00:43:53,460 you shoot in the air and Let It Drop and 1090 00:43:56,930 --> 00:43:55,500 then you shoot another one this was like 1091 00:43:58,990 --> 00:43:56,940 obviously you've seen the picture this 1092 00:44:01,790 --> 00:43:59,000 was like five right next to each other 1093 00:44:05,089 --> 00:44:01,800 and they're kind of reddish and our Loom 1094 00:44:06,770 --> 00:44:05,099 rounds are like a yellow white color so 1095 00:44:09,170 --> 00:44:06,780 this was a crop was it hovering 1096 00:44:12,109 --> 00:44:09,180 stationary was there any sound 1097 00:44:14,569 --> 00:44:12,119 absolutely no sound no sound but it was 1098 00:44:16,550 --> 00:44:14,579 definitely stationary how big was it 1099 00:44:18,950 --> 00:44:16,560 estimate to me how big 1100 00:44:20,210 --> 00:44:18,960 turn to uh one of those stealth bombers 1101 00:44:22,190 --> 00:44:20,220 eyes 1102 00:44:23,450 --> 00:44:22,200 well hold on hold on stealth bombers 1103 00:44:25,609 --> 00:44:23,460 can't hover 1104 00:44:31,069 --> 00:44:25,619 exactly that's why I can compare to that 1105 00:44:35,089 --> 00:44:32,990 I know 1106 00:44:36,890 --> 00:44:35,099 maybe bigger 1107 00:44:38,870 --> 00:44:36,900 you said that there were like objects 1108 00:44:40,730 --> 00:44:38,880 that came out and like circled it right 1109 00:44:41,990 --> 00:44:40,740 after and then it went dark what do you 1110 00:44:43,430 --> 00:44:42,000 mean 1111 00:44:46,250 --> 00:44:43,440 the right before they went out the 1112 00:44:48,950 --> 00:44:46,260 Olympics popped off over top of it those 1113 00:44:51,470 --> 00:44:48,960 two orange lights the actual Loom rounds 1114 00:44:53,809 --> 00:44:51,480 that went up over top of it and then 1115 00:44:56,030 --> 00:44:53,819 after that it disappeared like just 1116 00:44:58,069 --> 00:44:56,040 straight went black and then 1117 00:44:59,870 --> 00:44:58,079 helicopter started like pulling ass 1118 00:45:01,010 --> 00:44:59,880 towards it and they went like in the 1119 00:45:03,650 --> 00:45:01,020 direction of it and then they'd start 1120 00:45:06,589 --> 00:45:03,660 circling the area these helicopters were 1121 00:45:08,390 --> 00:45:06,599 circling for a good bit afterwards and 1122 00:45:10,190 --> 00:45:08,400 there was a there was a convoy as well 1123 00:45:14,329 --> 00:45:10,200 that went out it was like a 60 plus 1124 00:45:15,770 --> 00:45:14,339 truck Convoy that we saw go out as well 1125 00:45:18,410 --> 00:45:15,780 we were taking pictures afterwards 1126 00:45:22,790 --> 00:45:18,420 because it was just straight black just 1127 00:45:25,250 --> 00:45:22,800 disappeared what do you think you saw 1128 00:45:28,430 --> 00:45:25,260 I couldn't tell you I just know it's not 1129 00:45:31,370 --> 00:45:28,440 anything that I recognized or any of my 1130 00:45:33,890 --> 00:45:31,380 poster friends could recognize either so 1131 00:45:35,870 --> 00:45:33,900 I don't think it was anything U.S 1132 00:45:38,630 --> 00:45:35,880 military 1133 00:45:40,430 --> 00:45:38,640 definitely some type of UFO and governor 1134 00:45:41,930 --> 00:45:40,440 was trying to look for it after it 1135 00:45:43,609 --> 00:45:41,940 disappeared 1136 00:45:44,750 --> 00:45:43,619 I'm just trying to figure out what the 1137 00:45:47,569 --> 00:45:44,760 hell that was 1138 00:45:50,870 --> 00:45:47,579 this is a highly documented event we 1139 00:45:53,870 --> 00:45:52,430 like through exercises so we've worked 1140 00:45:55,790 --> 00:45:53,880 with a lot of people who use different 1141 00:45:57,890 --> 00:45:55,800 type of weapons 1142 00:45:59,750 --> 00:45:57,900 so I've never seen anything like it a 1143 00:46:02,510 --> 00:45:59,760 lot of questions so at least 50 1144 00:46:06,349 --> 00:46:02,520 Witnesses probably closer to 80. a lot 1145 00:46:08,569 --> 00:46:06,359 of those guys took photos and videos did 1146 00:46:09,950 --> 00:46:08,579 anyone come asking for them did our 1147 00:46:11,569 --> 00:46:09,960 commander say hey did you guys get 1148 00:46:15,050 --> 00:46:11,579 videos of this can I have your photos 1149 00:46:17,210 --> 00:46:15,060 did any Witnesses get interviewed they 1150 00:46:19,430 --> 00:46:17,220 mentioned a base response that Vehicles 1151 00:46:21,470 --> 00:46:19,440 helicopters things of that sort describe 1152 00:46:23,390 --> 00:46:21,480 that part of it how the base responded 1153 00:46:26,569 --> 00:46:23,400 and then the follow-up whether there was 1154 00:46:28,910 --> 00:46:26,579 any right so so these guys were not part 1155 00:46:31,130 --> 00:46:28,920 of the response but they saw a massive 1156 00:46:32,630 --> 00:46:31,140 response no they weren't shaken down I 1157 00:46:34,790 --> 00:46:32,640 hear this all the time when I'm in 1158 00:46:36,710 --> 00:46:34,800 looking at a case investing in case I've 1159 00:46:38,690 --> 00:46:36,720 talked to you more than I have my 1160 00:46:41,089 --> 00:46:38,700 commanders or any intelligence agency 1161 00:46:43,910 --> 00:46:41,099 you know I think I just got lucky man 1162 00:46:46,250 --> 00:46:43,920 that I got the tip off and you know the 1163 00:46:47,930 --> 00:46:46,260 idea that I could you know get hold of 1164 00:46:50,450 --> 00:46:47,940 people on the base it was kind of an 1165 00:46:53,390 --> 00:46:50,460 impossible task and then collect all the 1166 00:46:56,450 --> 00:46:53,400 visual collect all the data but this was 1167 00:46:59,510 --> 00:46:56,460 a big event in that there's Silence 1168 00:47:03,170 --> 00:46:59,520 about it now and people are left with 1169 00:47:05,510 --> 00:47:03,180 these huge questions so there was no 1170 00:47:07,010 --> 00:47:05,520 official response that I am aware of at 1171 00:47:09,650 --> 00:47:07,020 this time in fact I know there's some 1172 00:47:12,109 --> 00:47:09,660 denial and so that's with the footage 1173 00:47:14,750 --> 00:47:12,119 it's going to be really hard to deny 1174 00:47:16,690 --> 00:47:14,760 that this event happened they scrambled 1175 00:47:19,069 --> 00:47:16,700 Vehicles they scrambled aircraft 1176 00:47:21,109 --> 00:47:19,079 obviously someone in the command 1177 00:47:22,910 --> 00:47:21,119 structure that base knew that this had 1178 00:47:24,349 --> 00:47:22,920 happened and they reacted yeah but they 1179 00:47:26,569 --> 00:47:24,359 didn't follow up as part of an 1180 00:47:28,670 --> 00:47:26,579 investigation so you have to figure 1181 00:47:30,290 --> 00:47:28,680 they've got sensors radar things of that 1182 00:47:32,030 --> 00:47:30,300 sort they detected something was up 1183 00:47:33,530 --> 00:47:32,040 there in the sky I mean as we've talked 1184 00:47:35,390 --> 00:47:33,540 about I think this is why it's an 1185 00:47:37,250 --> 00:47:35,400 important time to put this out I've been 1186 00:47:39,290 --> 00:47:37,260 doing as much digging as I can for the 1187 00:47:41,450 --> 00:47:39,300 last two years but now this event 1188 00:47:43,849 --> 00:47:41,460 happened this is something arrows should 1189 00:47:46,609 --> 00:47:43,859 know about this is something that was a 1190 00:47:51,170 --> 00:47:46,619 mass sighting of a UFO an incursion over 1191 00:47:53,210 --> 00:47:51,180 a military base this was a craft and you 1192 00:47:54,950 --> 00:47:53,220 know that information is not being 1193 00:47:56,450 --> 00:47:54,960 properly passed up that's why 1194 00:47:59,150 --> 00:47:56,460 journalists like we get information 1195 00:48:01,490 --> 00:47:59,160 sometimes you know better briefings than 1196 00:48:04,069 --> 00:48:01,500 Congress and Senate it's a shame I mean 1197 00:48:06,470 --> 00:48:04,079 I like it but I mean we've provided some 1198 00:48:07,970 --> 00:48:06,480 cases that have gone up the chain of 1199 00:48:09,650 --> 00:48:07,980 command and now they know about them 1200 00:48:11,089 --> 00:48:09,660 that they didn't know otherwise they're 1201 00:48:12,650 --> 00:48:11,099 about to get another one hopefully 1202 00:48:14,210 --> 00:48:12,660 somebody's going to pick up the threads 1203 00:48:15,650 --> 00:48:14,220 yeah and try to get to the bottom of 1204 00:48:18,050 --> 00:48:15,660 this but there's got to be a paper trail 1205 00:48:19,490 --> 00:48:18,060 somewhere in that command structure that 1206 00:48:21,410 --> 00:48:19,500 base somebody had to write a report 1207 00:48:23,270 --> 00:48:21,420 about it wouldn't you think yeah better 1208 00:48:25,130 --> 00:48:23,280 than a paper trail they're gonna have 1209 00:48:27,410 --> 00:48:25,140 look this is a military installation 1210 00:48:29,809 --> 00:48:27,420 it's a protected airspace they're gonna 1211 00:48:31,490 --> 00:48:29,819 have radar they're gonna have infrared 1212 00:48:33,109 --> 00:48:31,500 footage and by setting up all those 1213 00:48:35,990 --> 00:48:33,119 helos and sending out all those ground 1214 00:48:39,849 --> 00:48:36,000 troops look they thought 1215 00:48:42,530 --> 00:48:39,859 remember that UFO or that UAP that 1216 00:48:44,690 --> 00:48:42,540 object.craft we don't have the full 1217 00:48:47,569 --> 00:48:44,700 footage of it but everybody consensuses 1218 00:48:49,849 --> 00:48:47,579 it blinked out it disappeared not just 1219 00:48:52,910 --> 00:48:49,859 the lights the body of it the whole 1220 00:48:54,589 --> 00:48:52,920 thing was just gone and so they think 1221 00:48:56,390 --> 00:48:54,599 that they were looking for it that it 1222 00:48:58,910 --> 00:48:56,400 they're trying to figure out where did 1223 00:49:00,650 --> 00:48:58,920 it go so that's how it ended what What's 1224 00:49:02,990 --> 00:49:00,660 the total amount of time and then at the 1225 00:49:04,970 --> 00:49:03,000 end it just goes poof it's gone yeah it 1226 00:49:06,650 --> 00:49:04,980 was it was 10 minutes in total because 1227 00:49:08,390 --> 00:49:06,660 there was was an individual watching 1228 00:49:11,390 --> 00:49:08,400 that just standing outside the thing 1229 00:49:13,370 --> 00:49:11,400 just in quotes appeared watching it for 1230 00:49:15,109 --> 00:49:13,380 a little bit first piece of footage 1231 00:49:16,370 --> 00:49:15,119 someone starts filming it and we have 1232 00:49:19,670 --> 00:49:16,380 footage all the way through six minutes 1233 00:49:22,069 --> 00:49:19,680 I actually have some infrared footage 1234 00:49:23,930 --> 00:49:22,079 but I'm trying still to get the original 1235 00:49:26,270 --> 00:49:23,940 footage of that because that's another 1236 00:49:28,069 --> 00:49:26,280 layer of information that we can visual 1237 00:49:31,250 --> 00:49:28,079 information we can see 1238 00:49:32,510 --> 00:49:31,260 but look man this is uh from a bunch of 1239 00:49:33,890 --> 00:49:32,520 trained Marines they've never seen 1240 00:49:35,990 --> 00:49:33,900 anything like it the thing that was 1241 00:49:38,569 --> 00:49:36,000 really eerie to everybody was the 1242 00:49:41,569 --> 00:49:38,579 silence to have something that big 1243 00:49:43,430 --> 00:49:41,579 appearing and sitting there and then to 1244 00:49:45,710 --> 00:49:43,440 have this response of let's illuminate 1245 00:49:47,450 --> 00:49:45,720 it let's look at it and then it blinking 1246 00:49:48,710 --> 00:49:47,460 out or just leaving well you could say 1247 00:49:50,089 --> 00:49:48,720 you know they got some really big 1248 00:49:52,069 --> 00:49:50,099 balloons 1249 00:49:55,370 --> 00:49:52,079 but a balloon can't disappear like that 1250 00:49:57,770 --> 00:49:55,380 yeah I look there's let's let the 1251 00:49:59,990 --> 00:49:57,780 debunkers give us all the ideas of what 1252 00:50:01,790 --> 00:50:00,000 it could be right and I'm not I'm also 1253 00:50:02,809 --> 00:50:01,800 not saying I know what it is what I'm 1254 00:50:05,150 --> 00:50:02,819 saying is you got trained military 1255 00:50:07,430 --> 00:50:05,160 individuals this should be a highly 1256 00:50:09,829 --> 00:50:07,440 documented case other than just cell 1257 00:50:11,870 --> 00:50:09,839 phone imagery and to me it was pretty 1258 00:50:14,030 --> 00:50:11,880 astounding it really looked like the 1259 00:50:15,710 --> 00:50:14,040 mass sighting of the Phoenix Lights I 1260 00:50:17,750 --> 00:50:15,720 don't know the exact size of it or 1261 00:50:19,970 --> 00:50:17,760 anything like that but to have that many 1262 00:50:22,250 --> 00:50:19,980 witnesses and this is the power this is 1263 00:50:23,690 --> 00:50:22,260 the power of iPhones now and you know 1264 00:50:26,030 --> 00:50:23,700 people being able to call journalists 1265 00:50:28,730 --> 00:50:26,040 that this information could come forward 1266 00:50:31,370 --> 00:50:28,740 um did anybody fire on it did anybody 1267 00:50:33,950 --> 00:50:31,380 shoot a gun or you know anything like 1268 00:50:36,230 --> 00:50:33,960 that no so there are there are rules 1269 00:50:39,170 --> 00:50:36,240 right so like the the rules of like 1270 00:50:41,809 --> 00:50:39,180 kinetic action so opportunity intent and 1271 00:50:43,370 --> 00:50:41,819 capability so I think mostly it's it's 1272 00:50:45,710 --> 00:50:43,380 about Discovery I think that's what the 1273 00:50:47,750 --> 00:50:45,720 Lumen flares were were about was just 1274 00:50:50,150 --> 00:50:47,760 getting eyes on and seeing what this is 1275 00:50:52,609 --> 00:50:50,160 but yeah that response after kind of 1276 00:50:53,930 --> 00:50:52,619 haunts everybody it's like what you know 1277 00:50:56,809 --> 00:50:53,940 who knows what they were looking for 1278 00:50:59,150 --> 00:50:56,819 there's got to be people that know what 1279 00:51:01,670 --> 00:50:59,160 exactly happened that night now our 1280 00:51:04,430 --> 00:51:01,680 military our base there they can deny it 1281 00:51:06,470 --> 00:51:04,440 all day long up until today today they 1282 00:51:08,150 --> 00:51:06,480 can't deny it anymore because there's 1283 00:51:10,370 --> 00:51:08,160 footage of it and we have witness 1284 00:51:11,870 --> 00:51:10,380 testimony and two people there's a lot 1285 00:51:12,470 --> 00:51:11,880 more people yeah 1286 00:51:15,170 --> 00:51:12,480 um 1287 00:51:16,970 --> 00:51:15,180 no media coverage so far no this is the 1288 00:51:18,650 --> 00:51:16,980 first mention of it anywhere how would 1289 00:51:19,730 --> 00:51:18,660 they how how would the media ever know 1290 00:51:22,490 --> 00:51:19,740 about it 1291 00:51:24,109 --> 00:51:22,500 um so basically the U.S Marine Corps 1292 00:51:25,970 --> 00:51:24,119 should produce a report on this maybe 1293 00:51:27,589 --> 00:51:25,980 there's one that exists at that base 1294 00:51:29,569 --> 00:51:27,599 that's still sitting there in somebody's 1295 00:51:31,730 --> 00:51:29,579 drawer and it never went anywhere it has 1296 00:51:33,589 --> 00:51:31,740 not gone to Arrow we've shown it to some 1297 00:51:35,750 --> 00:51:33,599 other people that we know that had not 1298 00:51:38,569 --> 00:51:35,760 seen it before who are familiar with 1299 00:51:41,030 --> 00:51:38,579 this terrain uh I think basically we're 1300 00:51:43,250 --> 00:51:41,040 hoping that a other Witnesses who have 1301 00:51:44,630 --> 00:51:43,260 you have not communicated with us will 1302 00:51:46,970 --> 00:51:44,640 communicate with us if there are other 1303 00:51:48,589 --> 00:51:46,980 images they want to share here's where 1304 00:51:50,750 --> 00:51:48,599 you share it and then 1305 00:51:53,390 --> 00:51:50,760 file the foyers let the foyers begin 1306 00:51:55,490 --> 00:51:53,400 yeah I think this is kind of like the 1307 00:51:57,589 --> 00:51:55,500 idea of how we put something out and say 1308 00:51:59,210 --> 00:51:57,599 everybody we want you to go for this 1309 00:52:01,250 --> 00:51:59,220 happen it's kind of just exposing the 1310 00:52:02,809 --> 00:52:01,260 fact that it did happen you know been a 1311 00:52:05,510 --> 00:52:02,819 couple years trying to really suss it 1312 00:52:08,210 --> 00:52:05,520 out I've got to the point of as far as I 1313 00:52:11,450 --> 00:52:08,220 can go but I I think that this case 1314 00:52:13,790 --> 00:52:11,460 being over a military installation the 1315 00:52:16,270 --> 00:52:13,800 the document Trail the mass sighting 1316 00:52:18,650 --> 00:52:16,280 this is something that should have been 1317 00:52:20,569 --> 00:52:18,660 instantaneously pushed up to the UFO 1318 00:52:22,430 --> 00:52:20,579 groups within our government and said if 1319 00:52:25,549 --> 00:52:22,440 there is an incursion of an unknown 1320 00:52:27,829 --> 00:52:25,559 craft of Unknown Origin that can hover 1321 00:52:30,470 --> 00:52:27,839 like that with zero sound and you've got 1322 00:52:32,569 --> 00:52:30,480 that many military witnesses that should 1323 00:52:35,089 --> 00:52:32,579 have been investigated so here you go 1324 00:52:38,150 --> 00:52:35,099 time to investigate yeah let's see what 1325 00:52:40,370 --> 00:52:38,160 comes out of it yeah I agree man so 1326 00:52:42,349 --> 00:52:40,380 anyway man there's there's a lot like 1327 00:52:43,609 --> 00:52:42,359 this but I hope that we can keep pushing 1328 00:52:46,250 --> 00:52:43,619 the ball forward with getting 1329 00:52:49,490 --> 00:52:46,260 information like this out I I'm not 1330 00:52:51,290 --> 00:52:49,500 trying to obfuscate kind of who who some 1331 00:52:53,390 --> 00:52:51,300 of these Witnesses are a lot of people 1332 00:52:55,069 --> 00:52:53,400 are still military a lot of them don't 1333 00:52:57,170 --> 00:52:55,079 want to be involved but there are some 1334 00:52:58,609 --> 00:52:57,180 people that out that are out now and 1335 00:53:00,829 --> 00:52:58,619 we'll talk and I think in the future 1336 00:53:03,170 --> 00:53:00,839 having one of the eyewitnesses explain 1337 00:53:04,910 --> 00:53:03,180 to you exactly what they saw I think 1338 00:53:06,829 --> 00:53:04,920 that's really important I got one one 1339 00:53:09,049 --> 00:53:06,839 guy in particular that I'd love to have 1340 00:53:11,329 --> 00:53:09,059 on and explain what happened that night 1341 00:53:13,849 --> 00:53:11,339 but right now I think it's about the 1342 00:53:15,829 --> 00:53:13,859 data and I want this information out and 1343 00:53:17,809 --> 00:53:15,839 see what people can figure out and find 1344 00:53:20,630 --> 00:53:17,819 out yeah folks out there let us know 1345 00:53:22,910 --> 00:53:20,640 what you find out and if you file it for 1346 00:53:24,829 --> 00:53:22,920 you and get a response let us know if 1347 00:53:26,690 --> 00:53:24,839 you were on the base at that time two 1348 00:53:29,270 --> 00:53:26,700 years ago today and have additional 1349 00:53:35,950 --> 00:53:29,280 information we're all ears all right 1350 00:53:42,190 --> 00:53:38,809 [Music] 1351 00:53:50,870 --> 00:53:46,790 never have so few had so much to tell 1352 00:53:54,109 --> 00:53:52,309 following this is a weaponized 1353 00:53:56,089 --> 00:53:54,119 presentation of Jeremy Corbell George 1354 00:53:58,849 --> 00:53:56,099 Knapp Dark Horse entertainment Cadence 1355 00:54:00,410 --> 00:53:58,859 13 Studios available now for free on the 1356 00:54:01,790 --> 00:54:00,420 Odyssey app or wherever you get your